Hi all I m new here, a brief on myself, was diagnosed with LD about 4 months ago. Been on Amoxi and Zithro for most of that time and have made noticeable if not amazing improvements.
My question I m hoping someone might have an idea on, is in the last few weeks I have had the worst abdomen pain and bloating, to the point of constant pain.
Now it always seems to worsen after taking my doses of ABX, yet when I took a break from those for a couple days the issue did not reslove.
My doctor dosent think its yeast issues though I m suspicious it is, anyway I m just trying to figure something out as its making it very difficult to want to take my ABX.
For what its worth I am religious about my probiotics, any help would be greatly appreciated thanks : )
Posted by jenn (Member # 21687) on :
My daughter 12 had the very same issues with Stomach bloating (she looked pregnant) and severe stomach PAIN that bounced around.
Took her to GI doc ran many tests all of which were Normal No obstuction, blockage yadda, yadda, yadda...
She too is on azithro and minocycline for lyme. She did test lactose intollerant..
We have been doing a GLUTEN Free diet for the past 4 months and her PAINS have disappeared!!! Although still bloated...she's NOT in as much discomfort.
Stomach issues' could be Bart!
Posted by Marine6624 (Member # 28052) on :
Watch your diet , such things as salad can cause pain in the intestines , a bloating , sharp knife like pain . Mine used to happen about an hour or so after eating , and would last approx. 4-5 hours after as it moved through my intestinal tract .
What your sugar/artificial sweetner intake , avoid them as much as possible !
Posted by philly78 (Member # 31069) on :
quote:Originally posted by Marine6624: Watch your diet , such things as salad can cause pain in the intestines , a bloating , sharp knife like pain . Mine used to happen about an hour or so after eating , and would last approx. 4-5 hours after as it moved through my intestinal tract .
This happens to me sometimes when eating a salad or other raw veggies. Did yours go away?
Posted by gryphon78 (Member # 31930) on :
Yea I m really watching the sugar, well pretty much none cept for what is naturally in food.
I may have to really start watching the wheat like was said, though with a metabolism as fast as mine I need all the carbs I can get lol
I ve tried changing my diet around a few times lately and nothing really seems to change it.... thanks for all the advice though guys Posted by Marine6624 (Member # 28052) on :
Wheat is not an issue . I have monitored this and it is bulky raw veggies causing a bloating with pain . Mine would come and go , but like I said since I stop bulky salad it has gone away
Eat raw Spinach or spring mix much gentler Avoid store bought salad dressings .
Posted by gryphon78 (Member # 31930) on :
Thanks Marine, I m not a huge veggie eater anyway but I do eat a lot of raw ones so that might have something to do with it.
Posted by jenn (Member # 21687) on :
If it's the veggies....Try taking a Beano tablet before eating!!
The pains could just be GAS! This helped my daughter Greatly!
Posted by raw vegan runner (Member # 30432) on :
I have been using enteric coated peppermint oil from Solaray. It works GREAT! Prior to using it I had pain, bloating, etc, etc despite being dairy/gluten/allergen free. This fixed me right up in a matter of days.
Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
sounds like plain old candida to me. are you taking probiotics correctly and sbc?
Posted by gryphon78 (Member # 31930) on :
well I m taking probiotics, not sure what you mean by correctly ? If you mean as far from ABX as possible then yes. As far as SBC what is that ?
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Two hours away from any antibiotics is what kayak means. Make sure you are taking saccromyces boulardii to protect against c.diff.
Gotta be yeast.
Posted by gryphon78 (Member # 31930) on :
ah yea I m taking both never heard it called SBC I guess.... but yea I m taking more than 2 hours apart and everything, just nothing helps, I figured its yeast must just be really tough yeast
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
DIET, DIET, DIET is the key. Then, be sure to follow the 5 step plan outlined below. It was developed by my naturopath. It works.
"Successful control and elminiation of a Candida Albicans overgrowth requires a multifaceted program as described below. Failure to follow ALL the steps simultaneously will result in slow progress and will lengthen healing time significantly. The program should be tailored to the individual and must balance the need to eliminate the Candida and deprive it of its food source while insuring proper nutrition for the individual."
Five Steps to Candida Elimination:
1. You must starve it into submission by eliminating its food source.
2. You must kill it with anti-fungal herbs and supplements. [e.g....garlic, onion, caprylic acid, Pau D'Arco capsules or tea, clove, grapefruit seed extract, olive leaf extract, oil of oregano, tea tree oil, Echinacea, Goldenseal, black walnut, MSM, barberry root, uva ursi, neem leaf, biotin]
3. You must reestablish the proper balance and quantity of probiotic bacteria in the digestive tract. [...multi-strain lactobacillus acidophilus and bifidus capsules with FOS should be taken between meals to maximize repopulation of the digestive tract by beneficial bacteria.]
4. You must reestablish proper levels of all B vitamins (yeast free) and utilize other immune enhancing supplements to boost immune system function. [e.g ... B complex vitamins (yeast free), biotin, beta 1-3 glucan, colostrum, maitake mushroom, vitamins A, C, E, zinc and selenium]
5. You must cleanse and heal the digestive tract to promote proper elimination of toxins and Candida and assimilation of nutrients. [e.g...chlorophyll, MSM, omega 3 fatty acids found in flax seed and salmon oils, GLA found in borage, evening primrose and black currant oils. Pantothenic acid, digestive enzymes between meals]
Posted by philly78 (Member # 31069) on :
Anyone who has a weakened immune system should be cautious with the saccromyces boulardii.
Posted by gryphon78 (Member # 31930) on :
Really why would that be philly ??
Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
i'm curious too...have used sbc from the beginning and all it has ever done is help me
Posted by Razzle (Member # 30398) on :
Lyme paralyzes the abdominal muscles, causing distention (bloating = fullness to a doctor, so the correct terminology is distention when you are talking about how far your belly sticks out).
Treating the Lyme is the only way to get rid of this, but detoxing may help some.
Posted by philly78 (Member # 31069) on :
quote:Originally posted by gryphon78: Really why would that be philly ??
I started looking into it last week after coming across someone who had fungemia. He was taking saccharomyces boulardii and that was thought to be a contributing factor. So I researched it a bit. I came across some studies...not all of which are available for free online.
I did post one of the articles I came across in another thread recently after reading another post. Here it is again. I'll see what others are online and post them.
I'm not saying not to take it. It seems to be fine for most people but I know some on this board are pretty sick. For some...whose immune systems are really compromised, or have multiple comorbidities, I would just be cautious. That is all.
Background. Saccharomyces cerevisiae (also known as �baker's yeast� or �brewer's yeast�) is mostly considered to be an occasional digestive commensal. However, since the 1990s, there have been a growing number of reports about its implication as an etiologic agent of invasive infection. A particular feature of such infections is their association with a probiotic preparation of Saccharomyces boulardii (a subtype of S. cerevisiae) for treatment various diarrheal disorders.
Methods. We collected published case reports, through May 2005, of invasive Saccharomyces infection by use of a Medline query. Epidemiological and clinical charts and therapeutic strategies were analyzed.
Results. We found 92 cases of Saccharomyces invasive infection. Predisposing factors were similar to those of invasive candidiasis, with intravascular catheter and antibiotic therapy being the most frequent. Blood was the most frequent site of isolation (for 72 patients). S. boulardii accounted for 51.3% of fungemias and was exclusively isolated from blood. Compared with patients infected with S. cerevisiae, patients infected with S. boulardii were more frequently immunocompetent and had a better prognosis. Saccharomyces invasive infection was clinically indistinguishable from an invasive candidiasis. Overall, S. cerevisiae clinical isolates exhibited low susceptibility to amphotericin B and azole derivatives. However, global outcome was favorable in 62% of the cases. Treatment with intravenous amphotericin B and fluconazole, in combination with central vascular catheter removal, were effective therapeutic options.
Conclusion. Saccharomyces organisms should now be added to the growing list of emerging fungal pathogens. Special caution should be taken regarding the use of S. boulardii probiotic preparations.
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If you read the next abstract, it does state in the conclusion that complications are rare.
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