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Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :

Ever wonder what the IDSA Guideline authors do when they aren't tormenting us? I never did till I stumbled on this "hobby" that one of them has.

This article is a "new" version of an old way to supposedly help people with C. diff, and is being done by Johan Bakken (one of the IDSA Lyme guideline authors) in Minnesota.

And they call treating Lyme with antibiotics "experimental"? Anyhow...

After reading this article you will know how hard it is for me not to comment on it any further, or let's say, sling it around.

http://www.internalmedicinenews.com/news/gastroenterology/single-article/fecal-transplantation-works-for-recurrent-c-difficile-infections-when-antibiotics-fail/ab8be6bcd7.html

[Big Grin]

Posted by mom2kids (Member # 31972) on :

Ummm, I really don't even know what to say about that. I just, I don't, really???

[bonk]

Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :

Can't get it to open, TC.

Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :

Must be you Tutu?

I tried again and it worked for me. And that is unusual for me to be able to get stuff to work. I will repost the link here, so maybe try it again.

http://www.internalmedicinenews.com/news/gastroenterology/single-article/fecal-transplantation-works-for-recurrent-c-difficile-infections-when-antibiotics-fail/ab8be6bcd7.html

And it could be someone in computer limbo just doesn't want you to read it?

[lol]

Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :

still nothing.. unless maybe i need to wait 15 min for it to load???

Posted by mom2kids (Member # 31972) on :

I opened it with no problem, but I couldn't find/see the article. I just typed Johan Bakken in the search box.

Posted by FYRECRACKER (Member # 28568) on :

Am I reading about a poop transplant????

Posted by lymeboy (Member # 24769) on :

who is putting poop where?

Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :

Are you guys aware that fecal transplants are very effective for certain illnesses? I know a LN member who has had it done, and it greatly helps her with her c. diff. The poor girl suffers a lot from that crazy infection.

Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :

stillwater - I was mostly referring to the subject of this thread in general. I knew you were just joking. [Smile]

It looks like this thread has more males on it than females, for once. Let's keep it up, guys! We are the 1%! [lol]

Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :

It IS serious, but I had to laugh at stillwater's response!!

I need a transplant to get over this candida!

Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :

Stillwater: LOL! [Smile]

I borrowed off of your idea:

Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :

Lymetoo - how do they know that the feces is coming from a clean source? Isn't there the possibility that the foreign feces might give the person strange diseases?

Also, can you share approximately how much it costs?

I've been contemplating doing this (although most likely I would never... I'm just thinking about it) because it's kinda depressing thinking how there are hundreds or thousands of different strains of bacteria in our guts, and we eliminated most of them with the abx. It's not like the 10-15 strains in the probiotic supplements are going to replace everything.

Posted by Tincup (Member # 5829) on :

[tsk]

Posted by Dogsandcats (Member # 28544) on :

I want to know why someone elses poop is better than mine.

I am jus saying,

Could you imagine posting on here...

Going for my Poop transplant! Hoping everything comes out well in the end! [toilet]

[ 10-18-2011, 02:58 AM: Message edited by: Dogsandcats ]

Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :

Can we say it's a new idea for the entire poopulation to consider?

Shucks - probably no one can donate who has our illnesses - oh well -

Posted by Boogs (Member # 7533) on :

I understand there is a lot of paperwork involved.

Posted by mom2kids (Member # 31972) on :

You guys are so funny!

"This is 2010, not 1910. We can do better than fecal transplantation," Dr. Gerding said.

Even so, there is "no question that [fecal transplantation] results are impressive even without controlled, randomized, and blinded trials," he said.

So, it's okay for these docs to do this and claim success, even though there have been no randomized, blinded, control trials?

Is talking out of both sides of your mouth genetic or is it a learned skill?