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Posted by whitmore (Member # 28721) on :
 
Does anyone feel this enzyme product is effective for biofilms?

If so, what dosage, schedule, and what can one expect in terms of side effects? I have heard of as much as 30 pills a day to 'provoke a response', but I don't know if that is a loading dose or ongoing.

I'd love input from those who've tried it.

Thanks.

Sue
 
Posted by whitmore (Member # 28721) on :
 
Also, if these enzymes actually do break down biofilms, doesn't that mean a huge dump of heavy metals into the body? Should one be taking steps to get rid of these?
 
Posted by Carol in PA (Member # 5338) on :
 
It was I who posted that doctors in Europe prescribe up to 30 tablets of Wobenzym to "force a therapeutic response."

From what I read, that was an ongoing dose.
I think you should ramp up to the larger dose.


From what I've read, killing off Candida will release a large amount of heavy metals.
Also killing off parasites, as they bind metals within their bodies.

I don't know if biofilms hold heavy metals.
But taking systemic enzymes can cause a herxheimer reaction, as the white blood cells can find the Lyme bacteria more easily.


As for dosage and schedule, you can google for suggestions from the manufacturers.
I worked up to 12 tablets daily.

I took it all in one dose, on an empty stomach.
The only time I'm sure of an empty stomach is when I wake up, so I keep the Wobenzym in the bedroom with a bottle of water.

Then I wait at least half an hour before eating.
I often drink a glass of iced tea and read on the computer.
I hate being hungry as I have hypoglycemia.


The coated tablets pass from the stomach into the small intestine, and that's where the protective coating will dissolve.
About 25% of the enzymes are absorbed.


The effects that were most noticeable for me were a decrease in body and joint pain, and a significant decrease in headaches and migraines.

Also, I seemed to bleed more when injured, but I'm pretty sure that I have hypercoagulation, so that was a normalizing effect.

Heh, you get used to not bleeding much.
Read about hypercoagulation.


Hypercoagulation (Thickened Blood)
http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C546624.html

[ 06-09-2012, 08:23 PM: Message edited by: Carol in PA ]
 
Posted by ladyjenie (Member # 21098) on :
 
I just purchased Magnifizyme a systemic enzyme with Serrapeptase from LOGOS Nutritionals and have been impressed with the results.

Blocked sinuses were a big problem for me and Magnifizyme cleared the issue within a couple weeks and is still working.

You could go to their website and contact them to ask for comparison.

www.logosnutritionals.com

I have gotten other products there and are pleased with their quality.
 
Posted by whitmore (Member # 28721) on :
 
Has anyone had the Hemex lab. ISAAC test that Carol mentions? If so, can you remember how much it cost?
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by whitmore:
Has anyone had the Hemex lab. ISAAC test that Carol mentions? If so, can you remember how much it cost?

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I had the test about 12 yrs ago. I THINK it was around $500 ...??
 
Posted by tickled1 (Member # 14257) on :
 
I would definitley ramp up the dosage slowly.
 
Posted by philly78 (Member # 31069) on :
 
I'm on wonbenzyme but I only take 4 pills twice a day. I take them with serrapeptase and nattokinase. I can definitely tell when one of the three is not taken. Like if I run out of one brand.
 
Posted by lightfoot (Member # 2536) on :
 
I hesitated to chime in here as I don't have the answers to your questions.

My Wobenzym dose may be of interest though. I started November 20, 2012 with of 4 to 6 a day. I was desperate for relief of full body inflammation (muscles, joints etc).

within a week or ten days I went to 30 tabs per day divided in three doses on an empty stomach. I continue this today. The empty stomach definitely keeps one from snacking. [Smile]

I think this has helped me on many levels. The more I read about inflammation, the more I see how it underlies many conditions, diseases etc.

I have not experienced any side effects. I have heard a few reports of stomach issues using even small doses but I think it is the exception rather than the rule.

I am NOT a health care professional.....just another person who has had Lyme/co since I was 15....rather not say how long that makes it. [Smile]
 


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