I've been thinking about this recently: do deer get sick since they are transporting the ticks? Just curious because of course if they don't, then they should be studied extensively.
Posted by faithful777 (Member # 22872) on :
My doctor said that deer are hosts to the ticks but do not get Lyme. His theory was that Teasel grows everywhere and the deer eat it all the time when they graze.
I have no idea if this is a true theory or not. Interesting though.
Posted by supergirl (Member # 26936) on :
teasel? so man, let me get my hands on some teasel then!
Posted by nefferdun (Member # 20157) on :
That is a very interesting theory about teasel. Makes me want to plant it.
Posted by bcb1200 (Member # 25745) on :
I don't know if I agree. Horses get lyme. Dogs get lyme. Mice get lyme. Why wouldn't deer?
Posted by jwick25 (Member # 15190) on :
I've thought about this a million times. It's so confusing. I wish we had answers!
It also annoys me that dogs have these effective lyme prevention methods (collars, etc.), but we barely do.
Posted by faithful777 (Member # 22872) on :
My naturepath said to take teasel all the time when I am in remission.
Buhner's book has a maintenance set of herbals to take once you get well to keep your immune system up.
Can't hurt to try them.
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
I think deer are a great host for Lyme and many other organisms. They are just like us and can get bit multiple times and eventually it wears on their immune system.
This holds true for many of the animals we see out there, including squirrels, rabbits, birds, mice, chipmunks and the like.
These animals are always getting bit and eventually they pay the price. At first they are able to fight it off and just like us they may have an event that they succumb to.
Posted by BoxerMom (Member # 25251) on :
I've heard the theory that deer are reservoirs, but don't get the disease(s).
I don't buy it. I think they are very sick animals.
I've heard people from highly endemic regions call the local deer "stupid." I think that means behaving in ways that don't seem conducive to survival.
I would love to see some research on infected vs. uninfected deer populations.
Posted by hadlyme (Member # 6364) on :
This article is from Michigan... says they can become infected. I would think that there are more articles out there with better info.
thanks to everyone who responded. special thanks about the recommended herbs from Dr. B. I would gladly ingest teasel for the rest of my life to prevent getting sick again.
Posted by Lauralyme (Member # 15021) on :
What about the tick itself? How come it isn't getting lymed?
Posted by Robin123 (Member # 9197) on :
Haha, Laura, can you imagine a tick doctor? Bring yer ticks in, folks, gotta get them well, so then if they bite you, you won't get sick...
I do teasel root tincture drops, along with turmeric powder - the combo is good for reducing general inflam and joint swelling.
Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
moose die from lyme. they call it brain-worm. maybe no teasal up north.
Posted by ChuckG (Member # 19093) on :
quote:Originally posted by lpkayak: moose die from lyme. they call it brain-worm. maybe no teasal up north.
Parelaphostrongylus tenuis isn't borrelia burgdorferi.
Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
i couldnt find the quote in the paper-i cant read that much...does it say how the moose are totally covered in ticks and how their hair is off cuz there are so many ticks and how they just wander for miles-days-months whatever and then they walk in circles until they fall down and die?
i understand PT isnt Bb
maybe they should look for PT in people...maybe it would answer some unanswered questions
im not a scientist...but i dont trust ducks or many scientists either. when you see one of these moose with thousands of ticks hanging off it you gotta wonder...really
they've known about this since 99...when are they gonna do something about it
the show i heard said they are just going to let the moose migrate north to canada to get away from the ticks. canada has ticks. we have seen them crawling on garbage cans below 20 degrees
Posted by supergirl (Member # 26936) on :
I hear you, IPkayak - where the heck are we supposed to migrate to?
This reality doesn't fit into my brain - I can't come up with any logical explanation for the reason that docs and researchers aren't outraged and jumping on this!
But, I believe that in every situation, eventually, the truth is revealed. perhaps due to our tenacity and our own rage.
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
Makes you wonder if the tick carries that much of a variety of bugs, how in the world does it function at all? Funny how nature and trial and error has a way of working things out.
I've seen many stupid deers that look bug eyed and brain dead, making stupid decisions on the road. It kind of reminds me of myself during my extreme head and neck pressures with brain fog. I was forced to stop a few seconds just to make my next move/decision, so I can relate.
Do you see the texting while driving campaigns? It was found that texting while driving can lead to CFS, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, Fibromyalgia, Dementia, Bi-polar, tremors, twitches, blurry vision and floaters, GI issues and a host of other ailments.
Hence the need for worldwide promotion and to sweep any other menial aberrations under the rug. The only explanation for this twilight episode, as the catch phrase so eloquently purported, "you don't get it until you get it!"
Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
texting while driving leads to death too...yours and theirs
all this stuff get me thinking conspiracy stuff again and knowing there is no way i can fight it
so many are so sick and dont have a clue
Posted by Lymedin2010 (Member # 34322) on :
Exactly.
It is serious and one would think that Lyme affects many more and many more to come. Based upon strict numbers Lyme and the lessons from it deserve a comparable, if not more attention and media coverage.
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