Morning. Doing good except for entering menapause. Achey , burning tongue, tired.
Moody.....
Help greatly appreciated. Posted by janice victorov (Member # 22937) on :
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Posted by sutherngrl (Member # 16270) on :
I am also going through menopause. I have the burning tongue, and a big yes on the mood thing.
My moods change every day. Some days I wake up feeling really down and other days I feel pretty good. Suffering with anxiety and depression; but taking meds to help those. I still struggle however.
I had a DVT while taking hormones, so now that is out of the picture for me. I just hope I am toward the end of this stuff.
I also have sweats. I don't necessarily call them hot flashes; I just sweat really easy. At times I can't tell if I am still dealing with a tick borne illness or if its just menopause.
Posted by janice victorov (Member # 22937) on :
I hear ya. My moods change from day to day. Also dealing with some joint pain in my wrist. I also know menapause can cause this.
Posted by lymednva (Member # 9098) on :
My mom had a hysterectomy at 46 and never knew when she went through menopause. Mine was totally uneventful, too. It just took forever to get to that point!
Posted by janice victorov (Member # 22937) on :
Menapause really sucks
Posted by Tricky Tickey (Member # 26546) on :
I know the feeling...............ugh. Me too.
Posted by rowingmom (Member # 41213) on :
Just me off on a tangent, but here goes.
I started with what I thought were perimenopausal symptoms 6 years ago (I was 45 at the time). Palpitations, increased heart rate, fatigue climbing stairs, anxiety, panic attacks (never had them before), hot flashes, chills, tingling in extremeties, emotional lability, crying, raging, back pain, ringing ears, tingling tongue, brain fog (pretty much all of which I had never had before. I was an athelete, competitive cyclist, rower. Now I was a wreck!) - any of this ringing a bell?
I went to a naturopath and he suggested that because cultures closer to the equator don't experience menopause like we do, it must be because of our diet. He said it was because I drank milk that I was having these symptoms, and that I should switch to rice milk because after all, our ancestors didn't chase down ruminants and express their milk. I should have then replied that our distant ancestors also didn't grow enough grain to express milk from, so why drink that?
After trying rice milk for a couple of weeks and not seeing any improvement I gave up and found bioidentical progesterone. This worked wonders on the panic attacks, emotional lability etc., and I'm not sure I would have survived without it.
The thought being that near menopause, as the ovaries stop producing ova, progesterone, which is only produced after ovulation, decreases, while the body is pushing more and more estrogen to stimulate ovulation - leading to estrogen dominance (which happens to include most of the above symptoms).
I used bioidentical progesterone for the next five years until I ended up heading down the lyme/bartonella path, as our daughter's LLMD believes that our daughter was born with congenital lyme. My symptoms are also consistant with that diagnosis as well (foot pain being added to the picture). I have not been tested, as we are Canadian and are paying out of pocket for our daughter's treatment. Can't afford more testing for myself, but I love self-experimentation. I learn so much from it.
I herx with joint pain, skin and eye sensitivity from Cat's Claw and also herx with A-Bart and houttuynia. So that's evidence enough for me.
I have found, as I have been treating myself using the Buhner bartonella protocols (along with my daughter), that I need less and less bioidentical progesterone to maintain proper emotional/physical functioning. Perhaps I am nearing the end of perimenopause, perhaps treatment of lyme/bartonella with herbs has helped. I certainly have less inflammation with Buhner herbs than I did before I started them. I feel calmer, more at ease and accepting of others than I used to. Maybe this is the change of life they talk about.
Here is my tanget. Spirochete's don't like heat, and I think, probably don't survive well near the equator. Those poor people have a whole other set of parasites to worry about. What if, during perimenopause, while our hormones are fluctuating and not behaving as they should, borellia and coinfections become more active, resulting in the symptoms that we recognize as associated with perimenopause/menopause? While other cultures that are not endemic for the infections do not experience menopause symptoms as we do?
Just me thinking out loud.
Posted by rowingmom (Member # 41213) on :
Just me off on a tangent, but here goes.
I started with what I thought were perimenopausal symptoms 6 years ago (I was 45 at the time). Palpitations, increased heart rate, fatigue climbing stairs, anxiety, panic attacks (never had them before), hot flashes, chills, tingling in extremeties, emotional lability, crying, raging, back pain, ringing ears, tingling tongue, brain fog (pretty much all of which I had never had before. I was an athelete, competitive cyclist, rower. Now I was a wreck!) - any of this ringing a bell?
I went to a naturopath and he suggested that because cultures closer to the equator don't experience menopause like we do, it must be because of our diet. He said it was because I drank milk that I was having these symptoms, and that I should switch to rice milk because after all, our ancestors didn't chase down ruminants and express their milk. I should have then replied that our distant ancestors also didn't grow enough grain to express milk from, so why drink that?
After trying rice milk for a couple of weeks and not seeing any improvement I gave up and found bioidentical progesterone. This worked wonders on the panic attacks, emotional lability etc., and I'm not sure I would have survived without it.
The thought being that near menopause, as the ovaries stop producing ova, progesterone, which is only produced after ovulation, decreases, while the body is pushing more and more estrogen to stimulate ovulation - leading to estrogen dominance (which happens to include most of the above symptoms).
I used bioidentical progesterone for the next five years until I ended up heading down the lyme/bartonella path, as our daughter's LLMD believes that our daughter was born with congenital lyme. My symptoms are also consistant with that diagnosis as well (foot pain being added to the picture). I have not been tested, as we are Canadian and are paying out of pocket for our daughter's treatment. Can't afford more testing for myself, but I love self-experimentation. I learn so much from it.
I herx with joint pain, skin and eye sensitivity from Cat's Claw and also herx with A-Bart and houttuynia. So that's evidence enough for me.
I have found, as I have been treating myself using the Buhner bartonella protocols (along with my daughter), that I need less and less bioidentical progesterone to maintain proper emotional/physical functioning. Perhaps I am nearing the end of perimenopause, perhaps treatment of lyme/bartonella with herbs has helped. I certainly have less inflammation with Buhner herbs than I did before I started them. I feel calmer, more at ease and accepting of others than I used to. Maybe this is the change of life they talk about.
Here is my tanget. Spirochete's don't like heat, and I think, probably don't survive well near the equator. Those poor people have a whole other set of parasites to worry about. What if, during perimenopause, while our hormones are fluctuating and not behaving as they should, borrelia and coinfections become more active, resulting in the symptoms that we recognize as associated with perimenopause/menopause? While other cultures that are not endemic for the infections do not experience menopause symptoms as we do?
Just me thinking out loud.
Posted by rowingmom (Member # 41213) on :
Just me off on a tangent, but here goes.
I started with what I thought were perimenopausal symptoms 6 years ago (I was 45 at the time). Palpitations, increased heart rate, fatigue climbing stairs, anxiety, panic attacks (never had them before), hot flashes, chills, tingling in extremeties, emotional lability, crying, raging, back pain, ringing ears, tingling tongue, brain fog (pretty much all of which I had never had before. I was an athelete, competitive cyclist, rower. Now I was a wreck!) - any of this ringing a bell?
I went to a naturopath and he suggested that because cultures closer to the equator don't experience menopause like we do, it must be because of our diet. He said it was because I drank milk that I was having these symptoms, and that I should switch to rice milk because after all, our ancestors didn't chase down ruminants and express their milk. I should have then replied that our distant ancestors also didn't grow enough grain to express milk from, so why drink that?
After trying rice milk for a couple of weeks and not seeing any improvement I gave up and found bioidentical progesterone. This worked wonders on the panic attacks, emotional lability etc., and I'm not sure I would have survived without it.
The thought being that near menopause, as the ovaries stop producing ova, progesterone, which is only produced after ovulation, decreases, while the body is pushing more and more estrogen to stimulate ovulation - leading to estrogen dominance (which happens to include most of the above symptoms).
I used bioidentical progesterone for the next five years until I ended up heading down the lyme/bartonella path, as our daughter's LLMD believes that our daughter was born with congenital lyme. My symptoms are also consistant with that diagnosis as well (foot pain being added to the picture). I have not been tested, as we are Canadian and are paying out of pocket for our daughter's treatment. Can't afford more testing for myself, but I love self-experimentation. I learn so much from it.
I herx with joint pain, skin and eye sensitivity from Cat's Claw and also herx with A-Bart and houttuynia. So that's evidence enough for me.
I have found, as I have been treating myself using the Buhner bartonella protocols (along with my daughter), that I need less and less bioidentical progesterone to maintain proper emotional/physical functioning. Perhaps I am nearing the end of perimenopause, perhaps treatment of lyme/bartonella with herbs has helped. I certainly have less inflammation with Buhner herbs than I did before I started them. I feel calmer, more at ease and accepting of others than I used to. Maybe this is the change of life they talk about.
Here is my tanget. Spirochete's don't like heat, and I think, probably don't survive well near the equator. Those poor people have a whole other set of parasites to worry about. What if, during perimenopause, while our hormones are fluctuating and not behaving as they should, borrelia and coinfections become more active, resulting in the symptoms that we recognize as associated with perimenopause/menopause? While other cultures that are not endemic for the infections do not experience menopause symptoms as we do?
Just me thinking out loud.
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
I find that black cohosh & vitex are really helpful. I didn't like the bio-identical hormones. I tried them about 5-6 years ago prior to menopause, though.
Kava helps with anxiety if you have that as a symptom.
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
PS - we may have worse symptoms of menopause than other cultures due to more toxins & chemicals in the environment. I'm sure stress is a factor, too. It's something that could use alot more studies, though.
I was looking at one message board & it was about a completely different topic -- so many women were complaining about joint pain & fibromyalgia type symptoms from menopause. It's not just the Lyme folks who are suffering.
I started getting bad sciatica. It's not fun but stretching with a foam roller helps. Also - I have to mention kratom. It helps me so much with aches & pains.
I got a softer foam roller (swimming "noodle") & it's better for me than the hard one. The regular roller was a little too hard.
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