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Posted by rkbb2004 (Member # 40070) on :
 
One of my first symptoms was a rapid heart beat which then grew to palps. After a few months of treatment they were gone. After switching meds 6 months into treatment they are back. I had a 24 hour monitor in in the beginning and all was OK. What do I do now...do you think my lyme is flaring and I need to go back on original meds or should I look deeper into the issue? I know palps are very common with LD.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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1. Be sure to call your LLMD on Monday. A medication adjustment might be in order.

Do not switch meds - or assume that you need to go back on what you were on before because your body is not the same now. Lyme requires frequent changes of Rx combinations and rotations. What worked before may not be effective at this point.

Other infections may need to be assessed (or reassessed, too).


2. Do any of the Rx you take affect heart rhythm? Be sure to check the fine print on the pharmacy company's Rx insert (or their specific website).


3. Food additives?

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=029690;p=0

Excitotoxins; MSG; Aspartame; & "Natural" Flavors (that are not likely natural at all)


4. Is your magnesium dosed 3 x a day ? Really important to not take it all at once or even just twice. About every 8 hours is best.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=123746;p=0

Topic: MAGNESIUM LINKS sets -- & other nutrients also to be considered for proper balance


5. Liver support may need to be reassessed. If liver is not supported enough, the toxic load can cause heart rhythm issues.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too.


6. Other considerations:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=077325;p=0#000000

CARDIAC INFO & SUPPORT of various kinds
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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
You may want to look at this book. I'm thinking about buying it. Many drugs deplete magnesium and a deficiency will cause heart palps.

http://www.amazon.com/Drug-Muggers-Medications-Essential-Nutrients/dp/1605294160

Get a good quality mag supplement and see if it helps. Take just about anything other than mag oxide.

--editing to add-- Keebler and I posted at the same time. Take a good link at her first link on mag. I posted some info there also that should be of interest to you.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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You cannot get too many posts reminding you of the absolute importance of magnesium.

Anytime any symptom flares, the first questions should be: *Is magnesium on board? It it the right kind? Timed adequately?

Now, don't stop there. It may be enough to help get past an episode, although there is still much more to a comprehensive & solid support plan.
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Posted by girl (Member # 18022) on :
 
Magnesium!
 
Posted by seibertneurolyme (Member # 6416) on :
 
You did not say what meds you are on. Zithromax for instance frequently causes heart palps.

Hubby had never had that symptom until he took that med. We ended up taking hawthorne and some other herbs to help with heart function and the syptom eventually went away even though he continued on the med.

Bea Seibert
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Bea reminds me that the oh, so good HAWTHORN is included in the Cardiac thread above.
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Posted by rkbb2004 (Member # 40070) on :
 
I was on biaxin/ceftin then rifampin/zith. I have been on the second for quite awhile so I don't think it's the zith. I have recently added cefdinir and I think they are worse now. I have never had magnesium or heard of taking it!
 
Posted by GretaM (Member # 40917) on :
 
Hi there.

Same thing happened to me.

Thought maybe it was the zith.

Then maybe babesia.

Turns out hypothalamus dysregulation and hypothyroid.

Lesions on various parts of the brain can cause all sorts of strange things.

If your LLMD has determined your heart and QT is OK, that your meds aren't impacting your QT, maybe it is issues with your hypothalamus or pituatary (sp?) gland.
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Zith and biaxin can both cause heart palps... and I'd venture to guess that they both deplete our stores of magnesium.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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" . . . have never had magnesium or heard of taking it!" (end quote)

Are you seeing a LLMD? Magnesium is the cornerstone of support methods . . . and it's in every lyme book and in Burrascano's treatment protocol.

I don't know how else to say that so, please, don't hear an "edge" to that but just a kind statement because I didn't want the absolute and essential importance of this slip past you just because you've not YET heard about it.

It is the most important thing you can do for yourself while treating lyme. There are many things on that list but magnesium tops the list.

If your doctor has not shared that detail with you, well, that just saddens me for a couple different reasons.

And while the doctor you are working with may be your only choice or may be doing a fairly good job with the Rx, if they don't stress the importance of magnesium, it raises doubt of just how well educated they are in the whole approach.

You will have to learn from other sources, too.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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You say: " . . . have been on ____ for quite awhile so I don't think it's the ____ " (end quote)


I know it seems like it should be true for any Rx, supplement or even food - but be careful of that assumption.

There have been many cases of bad reactions for repeated uses of various kinds of medicines that USED to work for someone.

Sulfa is what got me the second time around - sent me straight to the ER. I was shocked but it seems that is not so unusual.

Still, ANY drug that affects QT may be okay for a while - but not at other times.

Check the fine print for all Rx to see if they affect QT -- talk to your LLMD.

But, really, MAGNESIUM also needs a place in your life.
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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
There is also "cumulative effect."
 
Posted by aiden424 (Member # 7633) on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by seibertneurolyme:
[QB] You did not say what meds you are on. Zithromax for instance frequently causes heart palps.


I agree! I ended up in the hosp. after taking Zithromax. My heart rate, pulse, and blood pressure all went really high!! My POTS went nuts on it. I didn't know then that zithro caused heart issues. Will never take it again!!

Kathy
 
Posted by C.P. (Member # 38378) on :
 
I've had heart palps for ten years and then my LLMD told me to buy L-Theanine and take 200MG three times a day. It worked immediately and I rarely have heart palps now, but if I do, I take the L-Theanine.
Ask your doctor if it's okay for you to take. It's just an amino acid, so it can't hurt.
It's the only thing that worked for me. Magnesium did not.

C.P.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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In the footsteps of C.P.'s good advice:

http://www.iherb.com/search?kw=L-Theanine&x=0&y=0#p=1

iHerb - L-Theonine choices
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