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Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
When you herx how do you feel and what sx do you get?

I feel very weak and dizzy. My ears are all muffled and my eyes are blurry.

My arms and legs feel like jello and I feel like I am going paralysed.
I also feel like I am about to loose consciousness and feel very confused.

Also have bad heart palps and my Bp and hrt rate are up.
My head feels like a balloon floating.

Is any of this normal for a herx?
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
I feel like I am literally dying or will die. This is so scarry.
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
I am also havering shortness of breath.

I was already at the hospital and they couldn't find anything
 
Posted by Maia_Azure (Member # 44330) on :
 
I felt like I had the flu, minus a high fever.
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
So is what I am experiencing abnormal for herxing?

My ears are all muffled as well
 
Posted by BoxerMom (Member # 25251) on :
 
Maya, what abx/herbs are you taking? This would be, at minimum, a Babesia herx for me. You could be herxing for many pathogens, depending on what you are taking.

Are you detoxing? Water? Epsom salt baths?

Herxing is hard, but it has always helped me make progress. Be smart. You don't need to overdo it.

I know you'll get through this.
 
Posted by Judie (Member # 38323) on :
 
I agree with Boxermom. What are you taking????

Don't mistake an adverse drug reaction to a herx. (I did and I now have permanent nerve damage from levaquin, I had trouble breathing on that too).

If you are having trouble breathing from the meds, I'd back off. Honestly, you don't have to kill yourself herxing to get better.

Another drug may agree with you better.
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
I am doing ozone treatments and artimisinin
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
And I am drinking lots of lemon water
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
Today I feel a tiny bit less dizzy but my head still feels very heavy and foggy and I am super weak with body pain and very tired.

This really sucks
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
I also still feel really out of it. I have stopped the artamisianin for now.

My neck is also very stiff and sore
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
Are any of these sx even normal for a herx?
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
Does anyone also feel only half conscious during a herx?
 
Posted by Catgirl (Member # 31149) on :
 
I've had some of your symptoms before. Do you feel like this after ozone treatments, or artemisinin or both? We are all different, so it's different for each of us with a few of the same symptoms.

Have you had 23&me test done yet to see what genetic issues you have? It's possible you can't detox well. Coffee enemas help me (nothing else works as well). I highly recommend them.

Killing the bugs is good, but detoxing out their waste is just as important.
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
Can anyone else weigh in on whether these sx are normal?
 
Posted by jlcd1 (Member # 18138) on :
 
Is the artemisinin new for you? If it is I'd say it sounds like a herx to me.
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
I was taking the art back in the summer but then stopped it and this is the first time I have taken it since august
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
Does anyone also find herxing comes in waves.

This morning I was cleaning my house and now I am flat on my back with dizziness, heart palps, chest pain, feet numb and my whole body is sore and vibrating. How come u can feel fine sometimes and then not others?

Does the physical activity move more toxins and then you are flat out again?
 
Posted by Judie (Member # 38323) on :
 
Artimesia made me dizzy/whoozy. Ozone can too. Neither treatment worked for me. Good luck. Everyone is different.
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
The art certainly seems to make me herx. I get feeling very dizzy, have chest pain and feel very out of it
 
Posted by triathlongal (Member # 31684) on :
 
I found ART to be overly stimulating on my CNS. I took the liposomal version and it is suppose to have better penetration into the brain.....

I could not tell if what I felt was a herx or side effects/adverse reaction. I thought I read somewhere that it can be neurotoxic for some people but not sure. I would also get dizzy and motion sickness type of symptoms. Interesting is I did not get the same reaction from malarone, mepron or coartem.
 
Posted by jlcd1 (Member # 18138) on :
 
What type of ozone do you do...direct iv or where they take your blood out and mix it with the ozone?
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
Hey jlcd, sorry that I haven't gotten back to you yet. Just been a rocky few days. I do the kind of ozone where they take the blood out and mix it with ozone.
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
It is also run thru a uv light after being mixed with the ozone
 
Posted by jlcd1 (Member # 18138) on :
 
that's what i wanted to know. Do you think it's helped at all? Have you done any abx?

What kind of UV light because my LLNP got a azura and just bought an ozone machine this past week but the direct IV ozone is what i will be doing.
 
Posted by WPinVA (Member # 33581) on :
 
Are these typical herx symptoms for YOU? Everyone is different, so I would go with what is normal for you. If not, then maybe you are coming down with something, as it's certainly the season for flu, viruses, etc.

I've had several instances where i assumed wrongly that it was "just" a herx or just more weird Lyme stuff, but I was actually coming down with something. Over the summer, I got walking pnemonia, and wrongly assumed it was just Lyme stuff so deferred going to the doctor, even though it felt different, so I should have known better. Lesson learned.
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
Can heart rate and Bp go up when you are herxing?
 
Posted by DaleS (Member # 44571) on :
 
Yes. I had that happen yesterday. My memory is shot and i took this intramax supplement which has 450 trace

minerals in it. Forgot and then took abx 30 minutes later and had a wicked herx. My heart heart and bp were

increasing by the second. Yikes that was scary.
 
Posted by Maya12 (Member # 36392) on :
 
Thanks so much to everyone that responded to my post. I am do thankful for all of you
 


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