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Posted by jellybean (Member # 16575) on :
 
I recently read a book "Stop Alzheimers Now" and it talked about all the benefits of coconut oil (great book). So I started the oil and I cannot eat more than 1 tsp BID without getting vertigo, feeling like I'm on a boat in rough seas. Tried 1tsp at breakfast, lunch & dinner but that was too much, especially if I ate it on an empty stomach, so I'm back to 1 tsp with breakfast & 1 with dinner. Been doing this for a couple weeks now and still can't increase without the dizziness.

I use coconut milk all the time in recipes and even buy unsweetened coconut for use in my granola with no problems so I'm pretty sure I'm not allergic.

Theories on this? Killing candida? detoxifying?
 
Posted by jellybean (Member # 16575) on :
 
Just a sidenote, I eat organic, virgin, cold-pressed coconut oil which is what the book recommends.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Are you taking any Rx or OTC that is ototoxic? Cross search at Google Advanced search with:

the Rx / OTC name, "Neil Bauman" and "ototoxic"


While I've never had that reaction, anyone can have any kind of reaction to any kind of food. And, it's never good to eat the same thing day in and day out. Rotation is important.

Some may suggest that it has anti-candida properties and that could cause a yeast die off. That would make sense if you have candida as an issue.

Or it just may not be the best oil for you . . . or it could be other things going on at the same time.

This season in Oregon can provoke more episodes of vertigo / dizziness due to the changes in weather, WIND especially (the east winds kicking up from the Gorge make for tougher dizzy spells), barometric pressure, etc.) so keep that in mind.

You might want to try hemp oil. Nutiva is a good brand. Nearly all are made in Canada and nearly all are organic. New Seasons or Whole Foods will carry this, or order via www.vitacost.com or www.iherb.com

Sea Buckthorn oil is another one to consider. From Mountain Rose Herbs in Eugene.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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1tsp -- you mean one TEAspoon, not one TBSP, table spoon, right? If the larger of the two, you might try the smaller one.

Still, might be best to rotate to a different oil for a while and do a "test" run after a couple weeks again with just a little coconut oil to see if your body likes it or not.

You might also just try a skin test for a tiny patch on your forearm. Just curious. If you react, that could say a lot. If not, though, not conclusive for how it would or would not be for you as food.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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As you are taking this for the brain, the other oils I suggest are good for the brain, too.


https://store.nutiva.com/cold-pressed-hemp-oil/

Nutiva Organic Cold-Pressed HEMP OIL

. . . cold-pressed and unrefined. Just like hemp seed, the oil contains the ideal 3:1 omega-6 to omega-3 ratio. Unlike flax, hemp has valuable Super Omega-3 (SDA) and Super Omega-6 (GLA), which can help the body metabolize fat. . . .

OUR HEMP PRODUCTS ARE:
Certified organic and non-GMO
Made from raw hemp seed
Gently cold-processed
Unrefined
Never hexane-processed
Always chemical free

8 fl oz Glass $7.99

16 fl oz Glass $15.99

http://www.seedguides.info/hemp-oil/

Hemp Oil - About


From "Public Health Alert" an informational site for those with lyme:

http://www.publichealthalert.org/hemp-oil-for-brain-fog.html

Hemp Oil for Brain Fog

. . . Hemp oil helps relieve brain fog because it contains the right proportion of a 4 to 1 ration of omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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https://www.mountainroseherbs.com/products/sea-buckthorn-oil/profile

Mountain Rose Herbs - in Eugene, Oregon

SEA BUCKTHORN OIL

. . . It is a concentrated oil, and we suggest to use sparingly. . . .

[I suggest getting a two ounce bottle AND a dropper top for that bottle - order with this. Start with a few drops under your tongue and just let it soak in. Start once a day, then increase slowly. I have taken up to one full dropper about 6 x a day at the most - to help relieve burning mouth.]

Just a start to finding out more about this:

http://articles.mercola.com/herbal-oils/sea-buckthorn-oil.aspx

Sea Buckthorn Oil: This Herbal Oil Gives You More Bang for Your Buck

- on Mercola's website
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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some other oils to consider:

PUMPKIN SEED OIL

WALNUT OIL (and other nut oils, but be careful they are fresh and not allowed to have gotten hot)

OLIVE OIL

http://www.drperlmutter.com/olive-oil-brain-food/

Olive Oil is Brain Food

http://seagateproducts.com/product/291/100%25-Extra-Virgin-Olive-Oil.html

SEAGATE Extra Virgin Olive Oil

[The same people that make the best Olive Leaf Extract, IMO]
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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
Coconut oil is high in salicylates .. Are you having any other symptoms from it?
 
Posted by momintexas (Member # 23391) on :
 
I had to start super slow with coconut oil. 1/4 teaspoon once a day and work my way up.

Maybe try cutting way back and starting over slow and take it with food?
 
Posted by Marnie (Member # 773) on :
 
The active ingredient in the "medicinal food" for Alzheimer's called Axona is caprylic acid which is in VCO.

It is converted in the liver to the ketone called BHB which crosses the blood brain barrier and is used as an alternative fuel for the cells.

http://www.alz.org/alzheimers_disease_alternative_treatments.asp

A "reserve fuel" can be glutamate...not a good alternative, IMO.

Yes, too much too fast = histamine response/major herx from candida die-off. Benadryl will counter.

To clear resistant candida = diflucan (Rx) and Berberine HCL (= OTC, Glycox).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24060867

They work in synergy.
 
Posted by jellybean (Member # 16575) on :
 
Thanks everyone for their responses. I'm taking 1 TEASPOON BID. My goal is to work up to 2 TABLEspoons per the recommendations in the book written by Fife, ND. I've tried Nutiva & had the same reaction, currently using Costco USDA Organic, cold-pressed, chemical free coconut oil (not virgin though). I'm going to try Jarrow extra virgin next, just to make absolutely sure it's not the oil. And it does seem to have gotten worse when I tried to increase, but also only tried to increase since I purchased Costco brand.

I asked my nutritionist (via her assistant) and she thought it could be a common reaction as the oils in the brain get used to this new fat in the body. The message I received back was something about brain tissue and how it shrinks with age. Adding CO back reverses the process I guess and can cause dizziness... ? something like that... She said to go slowly and take it at night before bed until my body adjusts.

momintexas - did you experience dizziness as well? if not, what other kinds of things? and how slowly did you increase? over weeks or months?

Marnie - I didn't think I have candida problems but who knows? right? probably. [Smile] Your comments make good sense and thanks for recc's.

Keebler - thanks for other oil recc's. I'll look into those since I have to be careful due to gallbladder issues.

I have no other salicylate symptoms or other symptoms. If I don't take coconut oil, I feel fine, no dizziness at all. I'm on no other abx or prescription drugs except some hormones & haven't changed any of those in months. No new supplements or tinctures.
 
Posted by Nemo (Member # 22783) on :
 
I love tropical oils.

Recently I have had a rough patch with gastric upset, nausea, gas and gas pressure.

It took me a long while to figure it out what was causing my distress.

For a while I suspected I had a H-pylori infection but I decided to start reading labels and doing an elimination diet.

What I discovered was startling.

Once I eliminating all oils from my diet except for olive and canola oil my stomach problems suddenly resolved.

Allergy induced from my Lyme history?

This all reached a head during my initial treatment 5 years ago when I got deathly ill from eating Pistachio nuts.

Oh, yeah, all tree nuts make me ill also so add them to the mix.

Any chance you have developed an allergy to coconut oil? I have read that new food allergies are fairly common with Lyme survivors.
 
Posted by momintexas (Member # 23391) on :
 
I'm sorry, I just now saw your reply.

Yes, I did experience dizziness. I did the 1/4 tsp for a week. Then as I was able to tolerate it better, I'd move up every few days.
 


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