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I've never had a lumbar puncture test, I have heard that it can still be difficult to find evidence of Lyme bacteria even with a lumbar puncture.
You're in the right place, for sure. A lot of us have had Lyme for many, many years and have neuro problems because of it.
Glad you found us!
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I had a lumbar puncture 5 yrs. ago. I wouldn't go for another one after I read that rarely you'll find lyme in the spinal fluid. It did not hurt. Just felt pressure! He had me sit up, and lean on one of those hospital talbes, with my head laying on my This duck is the one that lost the test! I have neuro. symptoms also. Have had problems for years. I feel great right now, and tired from weeding and mulching! If you need any other questions answered, don't hesitate to write. If you do have the test. Make sure they give you something to drink, and have you lie down for at least 30 min. before going home! Some people experience headaches, but I didn't! Again, if you have anymore questions please let me know.
Kara,,,,did you just sneeze?? ------------------ Are you on abx (antibiotics) now? What, exactly.
I tried to use my Greek letters, but LymeNet had no idea what I was saying. It said..Welcome. I might have also sneezed! [This message has been edited by Kara Tyson (edited 02 July 2005).]
------------------ I didn't find the procedure itself to be painful but you may get a horrible headache afterward. Be sure to follow the doc's instructions closely after the procedure to try and forego the headache. So sorry you had to find new friends here, but WELCOME!
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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Personally [just my personal preference] I would never have a spinal tap unless my life was in immediate danger.
oops!
Lymetutu
Posted by Michelle M (Member # 7200) on :
Hi Olympia, and welcome!
Posted by lymeloco on :
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Originally posted by olympia:
Hi everyone!I've never posted in a forum before-really a newbie,so I hope I've done this all correctly-But I'm not new to lyme disease-My knee swelled up in Jan.-Doxy tabs didn't work- By March the leg was so bad I was in a wheelchair and I.V. rocephin-In physical therapy now to learn to walk again-I can relate to all of you who have been through so much-I've been really scared-next is a lumbar puncture-I've had possible neurological lyme symptoms for many years.Has anyone had one and can tell me about it?My best wishes to all of you-Olympia
Unfortunately, the last part of my test got lost!
The neuro. did it at the hospital.
arms.
He runs an m.s. clinic.
I need to go take a shower, I worked up a sweat! Take care, lymeloco
Posted by docdave130 on :
the lumbar puncture is not a pleasant experience. they give you lidocaine aroung the site and use a catheter to get the spinal fluid. should be done in a hosptial of surgical facility with xrays available.
they can do a pcr on lyme which if positive is positive for lyme because it is a dna test. the problem is there has to be active lyme in your spinal fluid and its not a disease like hepatitis where the cells are in great quantity, so if the sample has cells it will be positive.
the reason they do lumbar punctures in neuro patients is to rule out multiple sclerosis. this does show up in the spinal fluid and treatment different.i don't know if there is another test to rule out ms and the symptoms are almost identical
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Lymetutu
Posted by janet thomas (Member # 7122) on :
Yes, please tell us your history-
Posted by Kara Tyson (Member # 939) on :
Lymetoo,
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
Olympia...where are you??
Kara....
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Lymetutu
Posted by Biting Back (Member # 6018) on :
Welcome! The lumbar puncture is pretty unreliable. That being said, my advice is to be as still as possible while they're drawing spinal fluid.
Posted by olympia (Member # 7548) on :
Dear New friends-
I hope you don't mind the late reply to this message-
finaly catching on.
I forget sometimes that Olympia is usually seen as a Greek name-My grandmother,Olympia was actually born in 1900 in the Austrian controlled
portion of the Ukraine.
Olympia
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