robi
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How do you get rid of really bad gas???
Umm welll, you go to another room .......
I must think I am funny ..... my mom used to tell me that ...... "you must think you're funny!" she was not smiling when she said it.
Just in a goofy mood, robi
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I'm a bit split on this drug. While it could theortically be an excellent cyst buster. I think its a very bad drug to give unless a person either has been well treated previously for Babesia, or does not have Babeisa.
If those conditions are met, then I think it has lots of potential.
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My hunch us it is related more to the recent GB removal. Sent pm.
Melanie Reber
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Lyme Science,
Will you please explain further your thinking on that?
AP,
I don't remember having that reaction to Cleocin. I do remember it effecting me in other ways though. It made me very cold as I infused, and very tired. It also caused a bit of a racing heart.
At the time, I was also on IV Rocephin, then switched to IV Zith...along with allot of other stuff.
Robi,
Thanks for the smile- you really ARE funny no matter what your mom says.
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Robi, at some point, we run out of rooms, or if you run too fast, it follows. It's pretty bad when the dog is the first one out the door.....
I don't have any coinfections.
My hands get unbearably cold when I infuse. I normally wrap myself in a big cozy blanket, and infusion only takes 30 minutes or so, but with this new pediatric PICC infusion can take up to an hour (per drug, currently on Primaxin and Clindamycin). They might as well send me to antarctica.
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Ahhh AP, so you are at seeing Dr. J in NC. I feel ya. If I were you, I'd delete that no co-infections comment. Its more than likely not factually based. But, you'll discover this to be true in this course of your therapy. Live and learn, and then get Luvs, as the commercial for diapers says. For Lyme it might as well be Live and Learn, and then realized you were co-infected:)
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quote:Originally posted by LYMESCIENCE: Ahhh AP, so you are at seeing Dr. J in NC. I feel ya. If I were you, I'd delete that no co-infections comment. Its more than likely not factually based. But, you'll discover this to be true in this course of your therapy. Live and learn, and then get Luvs, as the commercial for diapers says. For Lyme it might as well be Live and Learn, and then realized you were co-infected:)
And WHO are you?
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Sure, I'll explain my reasoning. First as a cyst buster. One of the postulated reasons why Tindamax and Flagyl work is that they are highly anerobicly active. The thought is that these cysts are aneraerobic gram negative bacteria. Since Tinda/Flagly are active against almost all gram neg and gram + anerobes, the thought is that this is their mechanism of action.
Clindamyacin is a highly effectly antibiotic against anerobic gram negative bacteria. While it does not have the range of activity into gram positve anerobes found in Tinda, its activity against gram negative anerobes is in many cases stronger than Flagly or tinda.
However, the cyst activity of Clinda is assuming that the cyst is a gram negative anerobe. I don't think anyone really knows if its gram neg or gram pos.
Borrelia, in its spiral form, is traditionally stained very weakly with a gram stain producing results consistant with a gram negative bacteria.
However, scientists have found that the antibiotic sensitivity of Borrelia B. is highly inconsistant. Its behavior in the face of antimicrobials is unilike any other gram negative bacteria known to man.
For example, Borrelia Burgdorrferi is highly susceptable to Vancomyacin. This should be nearly impossible as Vancomyacin was designed to work almost exclusivly on gram positve bacteria.
Scientists still have no idea why Vanco, a drug exclusivly for gram pos infections (except in very rare cases) works on Borrelia Burgdofferi.
So, that comes the question, is the cyst gram negaitve, and even if it is, does that even matter. It may not be susecptable to Clinda even if it is a gram negative.
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Melanie Reber
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Thanks Science,
I understand your reasoning on the pos-neg effects of Cleocin with Bb...but am even more curious about this statement:
"I think its a very bad drug to give unless a person either has been well treated previously for Babesia, or does not have Babeisa"
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