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i picked up my prescrip for lortab yesterday. i already had the amoxy on hand.

dentist said to take 4 amoxy a day, 2000 grams, so i took one at noon and one at 4. got the lortab and took it about 5.

ok....i started getting a major, major headache, excruciating pain. then i started vomiting and i mean vomiting. my husband had to hold my head up as i kept choking and couldn't breathe. we had to flush the toliet three times, well, anyway, you get the picture, major sick.

the headache let up a little but last night the major eyetwitching, head pressure and shortness of breath started. i had to get up at 4 and walk the floor, i thought i was dying. i really did, no lie.

my heart rate was up and i had to calm down. it finally relaxed but i had to cancel the endodontist appt today cause there was no way i could drive over there and go through that. so i'm going tomorrow at 10.

was it the lortab or was it a major herx? i had stopped the abx in january cause the doc said no more so i haven't had them since.

could this have been a amoxy herx or a combo of allergic reaction to the lortab or both???

ugh, do i feel bad. right now i'm not sure i want this tooth out..........

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Lortab
Active Ingredients: Acetaminophen and Hydrocodone
Representative Names: APAP and Hydrocodone, Anexsia, Bancap HC, Ceta-Plus, Co-gesic, Dolacet, Duocet, Hy-Phen, Hydrocet, Hydrogesic, Lorcet Plus, Lorcet-HD, Lortab, Margesic H, Maxidone, Norco, Panacet, Stagesic, T-Gesic, Vanacet, Vicodin, Vicodin ES, Vicodin HP, Zydone
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What are acetaminophen-hydrocodone tablets or capsules?
What should my health care professional know before I take acetaminophen-hydrocodone?
How should I take this medicine?
What if I miss a dose?
What drug(s) may interact with acetaminophen-hydrocodone?
What side effects may I notice from taking acetaminophen-hydrocodone?
What should I watch for while taking acetaminophen-hydrocodone?
Where can I keep my medicine?

What are acetaminophen-hydrocodone tablets or capsules? (Back to top)
ACETAMINOPHEN-HYDROCODONE (Lortab�, Lorcet�, Vicodin�, and others) is a combination of two different types of pain medicine and is used to treat moderate to severe pain. Federal law prohibits the transfer of acetaminophen-hydrocodone to any person other than the patient for whom it was prescribed. Generic acetaminophen-hydrocodone is available.

What should my health care professional know before I take acetaminophen-hydrocodone? (Back to top)
They need to know if you have any of these conditions:
*drink more than 3 alcohol-containing drinks per day
*anemia
*constipation
*infection
*heart or circulation problems
*lung disease or breathing difficulties
*kidney disease
*liver disease
*problems urinating
*seizures or other neurologic disorders
*an unusual or allergic reaction to acetaminophen, hydrocodone, other opioid analgesics, other medicines, foods, dyes or preservatives
*pregnant or trying to get pregnant
*breast-feeding

How should I take this medicine? (Back to top)
Take acetaminophen-hydrocodone tablets or capsules by mouth. Follow the directions on the prescription label. Swallow the tablets whole with a full glass of water. You can take acetaminophen-hydrocodone with food to prevent stomach upset. Do not take your medicine more often than directed.

Contact your pediatrician or health care professional regarding the use of this medicine in children. Special care may be needed.

Do not share this medicine with anyone.

What if I miss a dose? (Back to top)
If you miss a dose, take it as soon as you can. If it is almost time for your next dose, take only that dose. Do not take double or extra doses.

What drug(s) may interact with acetaminophen-hydrocodone? (Back to top)
*medicines for seizures
*medicines for high blood pressure
*alcohol
*warfarin
*cimetidine
*antacids
Because acetaminophen-hydrocodone can cause drowsiness, other medicines that also cause drowsiness may increase this effect of acetaminophen-hydrocodone. Some other medicines that cause drowsiness are:
*alcohol-containing medicines
*barbiturates such as phenobarbital
*certain antidepressants or tranquilizers
*muscle relaxants
*certain antihistamines used in cold medicines

Tell your prescriber or health care professional about all other medicines you are taking, including non-prescription medicines, nutritional supplements, or herbal products. Also tell your prescriber or health care professional if you are a frequent user of drinks with caffeine or alcohol, if you smoke, or if you use illegal drugs. These may affect the way your medicine works. Check with your health care professional before stopping or starting any of your medicines.

What side effects may I notice from taking acetaminophen-hydrocodone? (Back to top)
Side effects that you should report to your prescriber or health care professional as soon as possible:
*chest pain or irregular heartbeat
*difficulty breathing, wheezing
*severe rash
*cold, clammy skin
*unusual weakness
*fever, chills, muscle aches and pains

Side effects that usually do not require medical attention (report to your prescriber or health care professional if they continue or are bothersome):
*constipation
*dizziness, drowsiness
*confusion
*gas or heartburn
*nausea, vomiting
*dry mouth
*itching
*flushing
*pinpoint pupils

What should I watch for while taking acetaminophen-hydrocodone? (Back to top)
Tell your prescriber or health care professional if your pain does not go away, if it gets worse, or if you have new or different type of pain. Do not take other pain medicines with acetaminophen-hydrocodone without advice.

Use exactly as directed by your prescriber or health care professional. Do not take more than the recommended dose due to the possibility of liver damage or effects on your breathing.

If you get flu-like symptoms (fever, chills, muscle aches and pains), call your prescriber or health care professional; do not treat yourself.

If you are receiving cancer chemotherapy or other immunosuppression medicine, do not take acetaminophen with out checking with your prescriber or health care professional. Acetaminophen may hide the signs of an infection such as fever or pain.

To reduce unpleasant effects on your throat and stomach, take acetaminophen-hydrocodone with a full glass of water and never just before lying down. You may also take it with food or milk.

Acetaminophen-hydrocodone may make you drowsy when you first start taking it or change doses. Do not drive, use machinery, or do anything that needs mental alertness until you know how acetaminophen-hydrocodone affects you. Do not sit or stand up quickly. This reduces the risk of dizzy or fainting spells. These effects may be worse if you are an older patient. The drowsiness should decrease after taking acetaminophen-hydrocodone for a couple of days. If you have not slept because of your pain, you may sleep more the first few days your pain is controlled to catch-up on missed sleep.

Be careful taking other medicines that may also make you tired. This effect may be worse when taking these medicines with acetaminophen-hydrocodone. Alcohol can increase possible drowsiness, dizziness, confusion and affect your breathing. Alcohol can increase possible damage to your liver. Avoid alcohol while taking acetaminophen-hydrocodone.

Acetaminophen-hydrocodone can cause constipation. Make sure to take a laxative and/or a stool softener. Try to have a bowel movement at least every 2--3 days. If you do not have a bowel movement for 3 days or more call your prescriber or health care professional. They may recommend using an enema or suppository to help you move your bowels.

Many non-prescription medicines contain acetaminophen as an ingredient. Always read the labels carefully to avoid taking an accidental overdose, which can be dangerous.

Acetaminophen can affect the results from some blood sugar tests used by diabetic patients. Check with your prescriber or health care professional before you change your diet or the dose of your diabetic medicine.

If you are going to have surgery tell your prescriber or health care professional that you are taking acetaminophen-hydrocodone.

Where can I keep my medicine? (Back to top)
Keep out of the reach of children in a container that small children cannot open. Do not share or give this medicine to anyone else. Avoid accidental swallowing of acetaminophen-hydrocodone by someone (especially children) other than for whom it was prescribed as this may result in severe side effects and possibly death.

Store at room temperature between 15 and 30 degrees C (59 and 86 degrees F). Protect from light. Keep container tightly closed. Throw away any unused medicine after the expiration date.


My wife can take vicodin-lortab basically the same as your taking but cant take percocet other name oxycodone vomits within 5 min after percocet,oxycodone.
You may be allergic to it or its just to many mg's? for you ?

The amoxy probaly isnt the problem its a herx plus allergy to much?


Amoxicillin
Active Ingredients: Amoxicillin
Representative Names: Amoxil, Biomox, Polymox, Trimox, Wymox
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What are amoxicillin capsules, tablets or chewable tablets? (Back to top)
AMOXICILLIN (Amoxil�, Trimox�, Wymox�) is a penicillin antibiotic. Amoxicillin kills or stops the growth of bacteria that cause infection. It treats many different kinds of infections of the skin, respiratory tract, sinuses, ear, and kidney. Amoxicillin also treats some sexually transmitted disease. Generic amoxicillin capsules and tablets are available, but not generic chewable tablets.

What should my health care professional know before I take amoxicillin? (Back to top)
They need to know if you have any of these conditions:
*asthma
*eczema
*kidney disease
*leukemia
*mononucleosis
*intestinal problems (especially colitis)
*other chronic illness
*phenylketonuria
*viral infection
*an unusual or allergic reaction to amoxicillin, other penicillins, cephalosporin antibiotics, other medicines, foods, dyes, or preservatives
*breast-feeding

How should I take this medicine? (Back to top)
Take amoxicillin capsules, tablets, or chewable tablets by mouth. Swallow the regular capsules or tablets whole with a glass of water; take while in an upright or sitting position. Chew or crush the chewable tablets, do not swallow whole. You may take amoxicillin with or without food. Follow the directions on the prescription label. Take your doses at regular intervals. Do not take your medicine more often than directed. Finish the full course prescribed by your prescriber or health care professional even if you think your condition is better. Do not stop taking except on your prescriber's advice.

What if I miss a dose? (Back to top)
If you miss a dose, take it as soon as you can. If it is almost time for your next dose, take only that dose. Do not take double or extra doses. There should be an interval of at least 6 to 8 hours between doses.

What drug(s) may interact with amoxicillin? (Back to top)
*allopurinol
*birth control pills
*methotrexate
*neomycin
*probenecid

Tell your prescriber or health care professional about all other medicines you are taking, including non-prescription medicines, nutritional supplements, or herbal products. Also tell your prescriber or health care professional if you are a frequent user of drinks with caffeine or alcohol, if you smoke, or if you use illegal drugs. These may affect the way your medicine works. Check with your health care professional before stopping or starting any of your medicines.

What side effects may I notice from taking amoxicillin? (Back to top)
Side effects that you should report to your prescriber or health care professional as soon as possible:
*difficulty breathing, wheezing
*dark yellow or brown urine
*dizziness
*fever or chills, sore throat
*increased thirst
*pain or difficulty passing urine
*pain on swallowing
*redness, blistering, peeling or loosening of the skin, including inside the mouth
*seizures (convulsions)
*skin rash, itching
*stomach pain or cramps
*swollen joints
*severe or watery diarrhea
*unusual bleeding or bruising
*unusual weakness or tiredness
*vomiting
*yellowing of the eyes or skin

Side effects that usually do not require medical attention (report to your prescriber or health care professional if they continue or are bothersome):
*diarrhea
*headache
*loss of appetite
*nausea
*stomach gas or heartburn

What should I watch for while taking amoxicillin? (Back to top)
Tell your prescriber or health care professional if your symptoms do not improve in 2 or 3 days.

If you are diabetic and taking large doses of amoxicillin, you may get a false-positive result for sugar in your urine with certain brands of urine tests. Check with your prescriber or health care professional before you change your diet or the dose of your diabetic medicine.

If you get severe or watery diarrhea, do not treat yourself. Call your prescriber or health care professional for advice.

If you get a skin rash, do not treat yourself. Call your prescriber or health care professional for advice.

I would call LLMD quick seems like it all started after the lortab

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Have you ever taken Lortab before?

Lortab has some ingredients (binders, not active pain relief medication) that makes lots of people, including myself...very, very sick. Its a very common reaction.

I don't think its a herx. I would advise asking for another compound, like Vicodin or Percocet for pain relief. Those two (percocet is stronger, but seems to have fewer side effects) are usually tolerated.

Hope you're feeling better.

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no i've never had it before, but man, i ain't touching that stuff again EVER>>>>>>>>>>
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quote:
Originally posted by geniveve:
no i've never had it before, but man, i ain't touching that stuff again EVER>>>>>>>>>>

What was the dosage in mg's?

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it was 500 mg but because i know i'm so sensitive i cut it in half.

so i took 250 mg.

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Geniveve,

Assuming it was the Lortabs that caused the vomiting, it sounds like you have an allergy to codeine.

Do you know if you have a codeine sensitivity/ allergy?

I sure do, and I can't take any of the stuff listed here or I throw it up. I do okay with Darvocet or small doses of Demerol (under 50 mg.).

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That was a lot of amoxicillin, too. I'm sensitive to medicine--I've always taken the generic for Lortab and it's one of the few things that helps my pain.

I once herxed on 100mg of amoxicillin. Awful. And I'd taken it in the past many times before I got this sick.

But everyone is different--my husband can't take hydrocodone because it makes him itch. Codeine makes me sick--gives me a headache on top of nausea.

It's hard to know when you take two things at a time, and when you're "abby normal" like we sickies!

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uh, do you mean to say it had codeine in it? i can't take codeine.

i took it (codeine that is) once back in 1975 or so and got sicker than a dog and have always told my doctors never to give that stuff to me.

i didn't know lortab was codeine....yikes, no wonder i got sick.....

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Geniveve, I have a similar reaction to Lortab, or any drug containing codeine - whether it's real or synthetic. So it sounds like Lortab, to me...

Like Tracy, Darvocet, Darvon, oral Demerol, and a very few others are the only ones I can handle.

If you think it's the Lortab, please be careful and tell your doc when you're trying new pain meds, because you could develop sensitivities to other meds, too.

I developed a severe sensitivity/allergy to morphine and all morphine derivatives. Had a reaction very much like you described when they gave it to me in the ER a few months ago - the duck said he'd never seen anything like it. Not fun.

Hope you find something that will work for you...

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quote:
Originally posted by geniveve:
uh, do you mean to say it had codeine in it? i can't take codeine.

Remember this word: hydrocodone....same thing as codeine.

Hope you feel MUCH better VERY soon!!!

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Codeine and hydrocodone are both opiate (as in opium)alkaloids, chemically similar but not exactly the same thing.

Heroin, morphine, and oxycodone are also opiates.

Hydrocodone works even without being metabolized by the liver enzyme system because it can fit into the endorphin receptors. That's why it works for me but codeine doesn't.

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