richedie
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I was thinking about this today and it dawned on me. How can someone get Lyme form a spider or dust mite as you often here? I have read it takes at leats 24 hours for a tick to transfer a TBD and a spider or mite doesn't live on your blood like a tick, you might just get a quick bite. Mites, for example just live on dead skin.
Thoughts?
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Originally posted by richedie: How can someone get Lyme form a spider or dust mite as you often hear?
Maybe that's not true?
I have read it takes at leats 24 hours for a tick to transfer a TBD
Not true, for sure.
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not true for sure.
vector borne illnesses are transmitted from mosquitos, ticks, fleas, and all kinds of stuff including flies, which only take a second to transmit the crap.
whoever wrote the 24 hr rule, is as dumb as the cdc and everyone else who has been trying to cover up this illness since the 1800s.
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richedie
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The 24-48 rule is in Dr. S's book who is well respected on this forum and I believe trained with Dr. B.
So then what do you all do to protect yourself from the constant onslaught of mosquitos outside, fleas from animals, spiders which are in most all homes and dst mites? The mite thing seems far fetched because I don't believe they bite, they eat dead skin we shed.
I would think every single person would have Lyme or something similar if it was THAT easy.
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Everybody probably does accumulate a certain microbial load. as long as our immune systems are very good, and especially while we're young, we handle it. But as stresses and accidents happen, as we age, and as the numbers of microbes increase over time, the balance gets tipped.
Also, tick bites are special because they contain substances that neutralize the immune system, allowing all kinds of things to increase and reproduce, including things that have been in you harmlessly from childhood.
That's why as we get older we need to do cleanses and detoxes, just as other cultures do fasts and sweat lodges and saunas and other things that reduce the microbial load.
At least that's how I understand it.
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richedie
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So I guess the only way to get your immunity back is heavy antibiotics. Once the abx do enough, the immune system can get a hold.
I read cleanses and detoxes are BS. No?
What type?
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This question you posed is a hard one.
I think the only semi-qualified person to speculate about this would be a biologist.
Us lay-people just don't really understand enough about these insects, arachnids, etc.
I don't take the time to search for scientific research because my brain isn't quite there yet, but I wonder if there are any studies that have been done on it.
I think I know what you meant, but antibiotics are technically to lower the bacteria load until your body can handle the rest of the job on its own. Anti-parasitics for babesia may also be necessary.
Once the load is down, then the immune system takes over.
There are obviously two things that could go wrong in the above scenario. Improper antibiotic (anti-malarial, etc) treatment or bad immune system.
You say detoxes, etc are B.S. That's a pretty bold statement for anyone to make!
I'm sure some are and some aren't. I have taken some time off all drugs, doing colonics, etc, and I think I am better off for it. I eventually got worse again though. So it's not like most if any of these things would be curative, at least in the realm of vitamins and detoxes. Herbs, etc. are still up in the air I suppose.
But I'm sure there are 'some' things that are a waste of money.
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No one thing seems to get everything. Antibiotics kill some stuff, cleanses clean out some stuff.
Some things like babesia requires other substances. And probably we should all be wormed from time to time.
Diet and exercise, probably even learning to breathe better plays a part.
And, of course, being with people and animals we love and who love us, plus doing things we love to do and taking actions toward living our dreams can help the immune system work better.
Find ways to be happy, even over silly things, and don't dwell on things that depress you.
It's been shown in scientific studies that immune systems respond strongly to our feelings. We can use that to our advantage.
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Angelica
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I agree with nwisser 100%. It takes a multifaceted treatment including detoxing constantly to get better.
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