Topic: Another question about EMFs: the wiring carrying the current vs. the appliance itself
Hoosiers51
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Okay, I have very little electrical knowledge.
People talk about avoiding devices like those digital alarm clocks, hair dryers, TV's, electric ovens, etc.
But what about the wiring (in the wall, not the cord) that carries the electricity that leads to the devices? Are those a lot safer? Do those not really emit much?
From what I am understanding, all the house's power goes through the breaker box (aka main panel), so shouldn't you be avoiding that above all?
Why is it necessarily the "destination" like the electric blanket that everyone tells us to avoid? Is the electrical device itself (like the blowdryer, tv, electric blanket) only the dangerous thing, or is the route it travels dangerous as well?
And if the "route" is dangerous (the wiring in the walls), how far away from THAT should you be?
Thanks!!!
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i just replied to your other thread but my understanding is that the route is problematic as well, based on the fact that my LLMD said to position your headboard against a wall that doesn't have a lot of wiring in it.
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D Bergy
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Unless you are sleeping next to any of these devices, they should not cause you any problems.
You can get some EMF's from wiring, but normal household wiring does not emit much, and is unlikely to cause problems. If you have the main feed line going through a bedroom wall, that may produce enough to bother a Lyme patient, and may have negative effects.
Whether any of it is actually dangerous, is debatable, but avoid exposure when you are sleeping, or any other place you spend a lot of time.
I turn the wireless router off at night. No need to expose myself to that when I am not using it.
I also do not keep my cell phone near me when sleeping or any other electrical appliance. I do not have Lyme, but there is no benefit to constant exposure to this type of thing.
Dan
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MichaelTampa
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Some of those devices put out a lot when in use, and that is part of why you hear that. The wiring and outlets and all that do put out EMF's, and some are sensitive to them. I started sleeping a lot better when I moved my bed to get my head away from the wiring (other side of the room).
As far as guidelines, how far, what to avoid, everyone is so different. How much healthier would I be without the wiring all through the house, who knows? I am very sensitive to the wireless devices, so I don't use those at all, and make sure my computer has it switched off, because most laptops these days will send out wireless signals even if you're not using the feature (unless you turn the wireless switch off).
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Marnie
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If I remember correctly...someone here used to throw (off) all the electical current to his/her house at night when he/she was the sickest.
Think about how a microwave oven works...it uses frequencies (soundwaves) to *heat* our food.
What heats up the fastest/ can burn quickly...
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An out let behind your bed with nothing plugged in to it will not give off EMF. Power must be flowing through the wire. A simple compass will show you where EMF fields are. I put in a computer monitor (old style CRT) for a lady at the office. It would not work it just wiggled and we could not figure out why. I went to the science dept and got a compass and slid it along the floor. At one point as i slid it across the floor it went nuts. There was a trough in the floor full of all the power wires to a 100 cubicals in the office under her desk. I told her i would move her desk which we had to do to get the monitor to work.
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An out let behind your bed with nothing plugged in to it will not give off EMF. Power must be flowing through the wire. A simple compass will show you where EMF fields are. I put in a computer monitor (old style CRT) for a lady at the office. It would not work it just wiggled and we could not figure out why. I went to the science dept and got a compass and slid it along the floor. At one point as i slid it across the floor it went nuts. There was a trough in the floor full of all the power wires to a 100 cubicals in the office under her desk. I told her i would move her desk which we had to do to get the monitor to work.
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GiGi
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Since the insulation of the wiring within the walls is very poor in this country, yes you are exposed to EMF, whether your lamp is plugged in and switch turned off, or not. The only safe way we found is to pull the fuses at night and use a flashlight. Whether wiring above you or below or on side walls, or behind the wall in the other room, if you have turned sensitive because of the toxic load, it has a negative effect on the body.
I stubbed my toes once in a while, but when combined with all the other therapies, I got rid of Lyme.
Take care.
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can anyone recommend a reputable company/product for protecting you in your home from EMF exposure?
I've googled some stuff, but it's so hard to know what the heck I'm looking for. It just seems to me that this area is ripe for scams. I really don't want to waste money on something that doesn't work.
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Hoosiers51
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What are you trying to block? As far as electricity goes, I wouldn't spend money on shielding stuff unless I used a gaussmeter and found the levels were high in certain areas.
Even then, you can just avoid those areas of the house, or move your bed to another place.
I am more into avoidance and keeping my distance than blocking with devices.
For Wifi, I plan on beginning to turn mine off at night. If you are getting a lot of Wifi signals from neighbors, I can see why you'd want to block that. There was one site that I've seen some Lymies recommend for blocking....I will try to come back and post it since I can't recall it.
With electricity, I feel like just keeping your distance from the areas where readings are high or where you'd expect them to be high is good enough. Maybe you would want the blocking devices if you are close to cell towers. The cell transmitting stuff is higher frequency than electricity, so it's a different area of concern.
As far as I can tell, with electricity vs. cell towers....they could both be bad, and it probably just depends upon what you are sensitive to. Some think the cell towers are worse.
I hope some of that helps. I pay attention to what I surround myself with, but I still haven't purchased any of the products, because I'm worried about them not working like you are.
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I'm not really sure exactly what I'm trying to block- I guess just as much EMF's as possible. I've noticed that when I leave my house for a few days and go to my in-laws vacation house I feel better. I always feel worse when I get home.
I think a huge difference is that there is no WIFI or cordless phones there and just less appliances in general.
I'm looking into getting rid of my wireless router. I'm not sure if I can even do that. I need to call verizon and ask if they can give me a non-wireless router instead. I'm sure they'll think I'm insane. My husband already does :-)
I found this company that has lots of products that kind of seem too good to be true http://www.vitalvibesusa.com/products.html Does anyone have any experience with products like these?
Hoosiers- do you have any recommendations for reliable gauss meters?
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NanaDubo
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A physician friend of mine who used to own a home in the Boston area found she could no longer spend more than an hour in her house without feeling sick.
The cancer rate in her neighborhood was sky high, including children.
There ended up being several dozen cell towers and antennae on the taller apartment buildings near her.
They allow bugs, bacteria and viruses to flourish.
She moved.
There is a website where you can put in your address and find out exactly what is near you, how far away etc. I will look for it.
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MichaelTampa
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lessemf.com is a very reputable company. They won't come to your house and do anything for you, but they sell some products for measuring and shielding, and have good staff to explain their products as well.
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