MichaelTampa
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I do my energy testing with pendulum. But, would like to help others I know get access to this type of testing. I am considering learning to do the "muscle testing" on others. But, also want to consider idea of a machine.
I have heard some references here to "biotensor", and maybe Dr.K. knows of or recommends a machine. Don't know if that's one and the same. But, if anyone knows of machines that can do this, could you please give me info on how to get and how they work. Curious if they can just test substance is good/bad, or also help with dosage determination (i.e., 3 drops, twice a day, at breakfast and dinner).
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I know the eds machine does awesome at testing supps and dosage...but very expensive to buy and to learn yourself, time consuming to say the least.
Interested in hearing peoples ideas on this also.
Although I think testing with a pendulum is great, it can be time consuming to get an answer on dosage huh?
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The biotensor isn't a machine, it's very much like a pendulum.
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The only machine I know of is the EDS machine. I am such a believer in its accuracy that I want to be trained in it and purchase one someday.
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Could anyone give me a link to more information on the EDS machine? I would be interested in cost, picture, and any information on how it is used.
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Some people use the Asyra. I can't say if it's accurate or not.
I use a bobber which is similar to a biotensor. It seems quite accurate for me. It's kind of similar to using a pendulum but it's easier & quicker.
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My practitioner uses the EDS 2000. She likes it better than the Asyra.
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I had EDS done in 2005.
About 2 weeks before I did it, I'd had a UTI I treated for a week.
When she started the test, I didn't tell her ANYTHING about what was wrong with me and how I was feeling. She didn't want to know.
The test picked up a bladder infection. I about fell over.
It also picked up that my pituitary was struggling. She said it was the lowest reading she'd ever had.
I told this to a doctor a few weeks later and he scoffed ( of course ) and said I'd wasted my money.
Guess what? Four years later I finally got a doctor to half listen to me and he did an ACTH Stim test. My adrenals were stimulated, which meant the problem with my low cortisol was a pituitary thing.
I kick myself now, because the test she did with the EDS was on my organs. She said we could test another time for infections, etc...which would be more money.
For some reason, I never went back (just too sick ). I totally trusted in how it diagnosed things, but she lost me on the treatment part.
She said the system chooses a rememdy for you, you sit a tincture bottle w/ alcohol on top of this metal platform thing and the computer energetically ( with vibrations ) whipped that little bottle into a remedy just for me.
That part I didn't buy into.
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lululymemom
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Hambone, did you read Dr. B.'s comment on pituitary issues?
Dr. B's guidelines state the following for long term chronic infections that don't respond to antibiotics:
In patients who have chronic Lyme, who do not fully respond to antibiotics, one must search for an explanation. In many cases, these patients are found to have pituitary insufficiency of varying degrees.
The abnormalities may be extremely subtle, and provocative testing must be done for full diagnosis. Persistent fatigue, limited stamina, hypotension, and loss of libido suggest this possibility.
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Hambone
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quote:Originally posted by lululymemom: Hambone, did you read Dr. B.'s comment on pituitary issues?
Dr. B's guidelines state the following for long term chronic infections that don't respond to antibiotics:
In patients who have chronic Lyme, who do not fully respond to antibiotics, one must search for an explanation. In many cases, these patients are found to have pituitary insufficiency of varying degrees.
The abnormalities may be extremely subtle, and provocative testing must be done for full diagnosis. Persistent fatigue, limited stamina, hypotension, and loss of libido suggest this possibility.
I saw that. I wonder how long he would suggest someone be in treatment ( without responding ) before searching for another explanation.
I've been on abx's for 5 months.
I personally think that mine blew out when I came off the dern SSRI that Mayo gave me in 2001. I know some people come off that stuff very easily, but for me it was hell on earth.
My bp is fine and my libido is...ok....but man this fatigue is insane.
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lululymemom
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Well the fatigue can definitely be caused by Lyme disease or Bartonella... I just recently contacted Buhner about treating Bart and this is his new protocol. This was his reponse to me:
"The combination of increasing immune function and the herbs will often take care of the problem".
Red root
Boneset
Japanese knotweed
Rhodiola
Ashwaghanda
Is what I would recommend
I did some research on the additional herbs and Rhodiola has some definite benefits for fatigue as well as improving mood:
Rhodiola rosea has been shown effective in improving mood and alleviating depression. Research from Russia has shown that it improves both mental and physical performance, prevents sickness in high altitudes, and reduces fatigue.
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sparkle7
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Fatigue is very hard. I think I'd rather be in pain than have fatigue. At least you can take something to help with pain...
I guess it depeds where the fatigue is coming from. Many illnesses have fatigue as a symptom. I had CFS many years ago. I used astragulus & it helped me. I think some people contra-indicate it for Lyme, though.
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