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I am wondering if anyone knows what supplements can cause mania or psych issues in a bipolar person and how to balance them out if you need them for detoxing, treatment, etc.
Thanks!
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Well, FWIW, I know the methcobalamin formulation of B12 gave me unbearable anxiety in an otherwise non-anxious person. Solution: switch to cyanocobalamin B12 and use niacin (50mg every couple hrs) to reduce anxiety.
I have the COMT polymorphism that is a biopolar risk factor and a phase i/ii detox problem.
Also FWIW, a friend's bipolar kid had Abilify-induced psychosis.
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- Garlic / Allicin can be a bit stimulating for some. It can still have an honored place in treatment yet should be balanced with other herbs. Most herbs are in a formula (or overall protocol), for this very reason: balance of not just covering all the bases but maintaining a steady effect.
Avoid excitatory / stimulating supplements such as
Niacin (B3) except in very small amounts, in a balanced supplement. So many have far too high amounts of niacin. It can cause flushing and severe anxiety. I found that out the hard way.
A time-release or slow-release niacin (B3) is best but it's hard to know when you have certain multiple vitamins just what their source is.
The SOURCE of the supplement is also very important. A naturopathic doctor is best to consult (links are in with the various sets).
Bee Pollen can be very excitatory (and stomach churning if not in the middle of a meal) . . .
as can Brewer's Yeast (really it should be called "Nutritional" yeast, that yellow flakey stuff that is loaded with B vitamins but can be too much if taking too much or on an empty stomach).
See post: Caution: Aspartate; Glutamine; and Phenylalanine (3 excitatory amino acids that can be wrong for us when added as supplements, beyond a normal dietary level)
Seaweed has its own natural MSG and can be very excitatory.
Excitotoxins; MSG; Aspartame; & "Natural" Flavors (that are not likely natural at all).
And MAGNESIUM is the #1 thing to help offset that neuro-excitability. Detail in the link above. -
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- Also must say that many have been misdiagnosed as "bipolar" who simply are not. Symptoms can be very much misinterpreted by those who are ignorant about lyme / TBD / liver stress (including porphyria) / adrenal issues & nutrient deficiency & sleep deprivation issues.
Lyme can also amplify certain genetic mutations of the liver and make toxicity issues worse. Lyme can also CAUSE some DNA changes, so it may be that the mutations might not have been there from the start, necessarily. Most regular doctors have no clue about that. Some good LLMDs and LL NDs do.
Still, whatever label, the bottom line issue of over-excitability matters. The REASONS for symptoms must be sorted out, of course.
Because lyme, even just lyme itself can cause what may seem to be "bipolar" symptoms (and treatment for lyme or other infections can help clear the matter) be sure to discuss this with your LLMD or LL ND.
If a psychiatric / pharmaceutical approach necessary, your LLMD or LL ND are the best to guide you to a psychiatrist who is adequately lyme literate. THAT really matters.
Knowledge of the inner/middle ear system is also vital for some with the diagnosis of "bipolar" if tinnitus or hyperacusis is involved.
I also think awareness, even formal education in nutritional medicine matters greatly, too. Often many mood drugs are liver toxic. That can be avoided with other actions, sometimes. And, if not, then liver support matters all that much more WHILE getting to the underlying causes.
Avoid anything that promises quick energy or a brilliant mind in a minute.
Also be very, very careful about your interpretation of "detoxing" as that concept can be dangerous as some might interpret it. Think of "liver support" to help the liver / kidneys but not push. Never, ever push. Always support, though. If something feels too much, back away.
LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too.
Adrenal support is absolutely vital. Absolutely. However, for you, it's probably best to AVOID RHODIOLA (unless as a reasonable amount in a balanced supplement with other adrenal support). Rhodiola can be too stimulating for many, at least starting out or alone.
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- beck,
You asked about supplements, however, you should also be aware that some vaccines can also be far too neuro-stimulating due to the adjudicants (additives and such).
The formaldehyde & mercury are too neuro-excitatory because they are neuro-toxic. For a person who is dealing with systemic infection that targets the nervous system, such additives can clobber big-time.
If you consider ANY vaccine, talk first with your LLMD or LL ND.
With that said, however, if you ever need a tetanus shot, that would still be very important to go ahead with as, if exposed, tetanus can be damaging / fatal in a matter of hours. Best to read up on that so as to avoid exposure in soil, etc.
You might be able to ask for mercury free vaccines but there are still so many chemicals added. It's a whole huge topic to itself, though, so just leaving it as a note to become aware. -
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The tricky thing is it is probably different for everyone.
I think the best thing would be to start any new supplements slowly and carefully.
Also, adding only one thing at a time might be a good idea, in case any symptoms pop up it will be easier to identify what caused them.
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