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Posted by citruslyme (Member # 7851) on :
 
Hi I began cumanda yesterday and was shocked to see I herxed big time.
I was wondering if anyone had any success on it?
thanks
Lynn
 

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Posted by ashleygait (Member # 10398) on :
 
Hey Lynn--I've heard of some people who have, but I haven't tried it yet--it's on my list though! How are you taking it and how much of it are you taking?

Ashley
 

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Posted by Truthfinder (Member # 8512) on :
 
Citrus, me too!

I only made it 3 days on Cumanda. I was only up to 3 drops, 3 x a day and I had a major heart incident - fainting, then tachydardia (170 bpm), constrictive feeling in forhead and chest.

I quit taking it, but I still feel like I'm going to have more heart issues. And I hadn't even had many palpiatations for quite awhile before the Cumanda incident.

Mind you, I had been taking Samento for about 8 months, 8 drops, 2 x a day, so I was a bit shocked at how strongly I reacted to the Cumanda. (It was heart issues that held me at a total of 16 drops a day on the Samento, too.)

Tracy
 

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Posted by Aniek (Member # 5374) on :
 
Cumanda has done great things to control my yeast. I can't tell if I Lyme herxed on it or not, because I was on Omnicef and Zith when I started it.

But I am up to the full 40 drops twice a day now. I'm staying on it semi-permanently because I'm still on abx and need help controlling yeast.
 

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Posted by klutzo (Member # 5701) on :
 
I've been taking Cumanda for almost a year now, in alteration with Samento (Cowden Protocol). I had taken Samento for 2 yrs. prior to starting Cumanda.

I find the herx is different. With Samento, I herx within 2 hrs. of taking it. Cumanda sneaks up on me, with the herx starting on the 3rd day after I raise the dose, so I can get lulled into thinking I can tolerate a higher dose, only to come down hard.

With both herbs, I had to lower the dose and start up slowly again, many times. I did eventually reach full dosage of Cumanda.

Samento has caused more heart herxing for me than Cumanda does. I guess it depends on where your pathogens are hanging out.

I have never been able to reach full dosage of Samento, even after 3 years of herxing on it, except for right now. The reason I am able to tolerate 15 drops per day of Samento right now is that I had to have 3 cortisone shots recently for my back, and I am sure they are blocking the effects of Samento, so I am taking as much as I can until the cortisone wears off.

I also found that getting serious about detoxing the die-off was needed, in order to be able to raise my dosage of the herbs without major herx sx. I have to take at least 2 grams of chlorella and one digestive enzyme with each dose of herb.

Klutzo

Klutzo
 

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Posted by Dave6002 (Member # 9064) on :
 

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I have never been able to reach full dosage of Samento, even after 3 years of herxing on it, except for right now. The reason I am able to tolerate 15 drops per day of Samento right now is that I had to have 3 cortisone shots recently for my back, and I am sure they are blocking the effects of Samento, so I am taking as much as I can until the cortisone wears off.

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