I was on abx for 4 years and ate an anti yeast diet the whole time. I had to stop the abx last Aug. and then I added some apples, blueberries, rice cakes & 1/3 c quinoa to my allowed daily food.
Now Im just starting the Buhner Healing Lyme herbal protocal and am wondering if this treatment can cause the same yeast problem or can I still eat my apple for breakfast? Im still taking 1 probiotic per day but its hard to tell if Im fine because I had to start drinking aloe juice before every meal so I can still swallow pills and that causes some changes to your tummy but it completely stopped all my throat issues.
If abx can kill off the good stuff in the tummy can the herbs do the same thing? What do you think? I didnt see anything written about a yeast problem from taking the herbs in the book so Im hoping to be able to still eat some fruit.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
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I've been on the Buhner protocol for several months now. No problem with yeast whatsoever. Andrographis is fabulous in helping to prevent fungal infections.
Andrographis got rid of a mouthful of burning uclers I had had for four straight years. Within one week - amazing. (Allicin also had helped but, for me, it raises tinnitus to unbearable levels.)
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Yes, tart apples and dark berries are fine and, in fact, very good antioxidants and fiber. I eat all sorts of whole grains that are gluten free. In addition quinoa and red quinoa, there is wild rice (really a grass), buckwheat (really a legume), and many varieties of brown and black rices. Millet and amarynth (sp?), too.
There is a wonderful family of gluten-free crackers: Mary's Gone Crackers that are better than rice cakes in every way: www.marysgonecrackers.com
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Yes, taking probiotics is still a good idea. I get mine in a green powder formula. Miso soup has wonderful probiotics, too.
I also highly recommend FLORASTOR, now and then, for extra protection against the possibility of c.diff. www.florastor.com
You can search Buhner's web site for what he might say about all this, though. I just got an email that their site will be having a cosmetic change soon so if you don't get through, try again.
WHAT IT DOES: Slippery elm inner bark is sweet in taste and neutral in action. It soothes the throat and coats and soothes the intestines.
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Slippery elm contains abundant vegetable mucilage, which has a coating action useful in treating digestive conditions with inflamed mucous membrane linings such as gastritis, gastric or duodenal ulcer, enteritis and colitis.
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
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I just took a look in Buhner's book and he offers research about Japanese Knotweed working well against candida.
He does suggest using a probiotic and also saccharomyces boulardii, the key ingredient in Florastor (linked above).
For anyone with an active candida infection, on page 174, he offers more specific detail.
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Posted by sofylyme (Member # 7900) on :
Keebler Thank you so much for sharing your experience. Ive been to the Bruhner site and there is so little info there and they dont have an active helpful posting site like this one. I also tried to go to the yahoo site and didnt find anything helpful and mentally it was hard for me to use. Im going to try posting some other ??? right here and hopefully there will be some others like you who are using this process for tomorrows hope.
Posted by mustluvdogs (Member # 18273) on :
Hi. I'm relatively new here. Well I've been lurking.
Anyway, I use Grapefruit Seed Extract. But if you are on abx you have to take 3-4 hours after and schedule in between probiotics.
I had a yeast infection and took two and totally got rid of it. It's a very powerful natural anti-fungal.
Take care.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
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sofylyme,
You do have the book to guide you, I hope. It is important to ramp up very slowly as instructed with the andrographis. And take with food at first.
The stomach upset can be rough but it gets better. Fatigue will probably also be worse at the beginning so understanding that and planning for it can help.
I find the benefits to be worth it - but I've not really gotten into the full protocol yet. I'm really slow in charting this out and ordering from different suppliers, etc.
As Mustlovgods said, GSE is also excellent. And it can work on the cyst form of lyme, too.
Still, the probiotics are also good as they do much more than just help prevent or heal from candida. Probiotics have many beneficial properties.
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Posted by sofylyme (Member # 7900) on :
Slippery Elm I forgot when I first read your suggestion about it cuz I have used it many times but when I searched the net about it I found one place that said that taking it with any medications can interfere with your body absorbing the medication so you need to make sure you wait at least an hour or two between the taking of meds and Slippery Elm. Most site did not mention this.
Keebler HERBS with FOOD??? You said that at first you take andrographis with food. I have the book and dont remember reading anything about any of the herbs that said with or without food. I just started 1 pill 4 times a day and have taken 3 with meals and will be taking my first one without food at bedtime.
I wont be able to take cats claw because he says acid neutralizers like aloe juice stop the body from absorbing it but I also started the resveratrol at the same time because it says it helps the brain and my brain need all the help it can get pdq.
Posted by MariaA (Member # 9128) on :
Food makes it easier to swallow that many pills (several of us took our pills with food because of swallowing problems while on full protocol, when you're taking at 12-16 pills several times a day).
Otherwise, most people don't have stomach upset from the herbs, so it probably doesn't matter as much as it does for some antibiotics unless you notice that it upsets your stomach.
Take a look at the links in the 'herbal threads' link in my signature for some older threads about Lymenet people's experience with the protocol. It worked quite well for me for Lyme.