i'm trying to figure out if this is Lyme and co's infection or toxins?
i feel very spacey with wierd vision prosessing like i'm in a dream world,
assuming it was a toxic issue, for the past week,i have been rebounding and drinking atleast a gallon of water some with lemon a day,and epson baths every night and
i tried some csm but it seems to bring out body pain which is not my normal symptom so i switched to 6-8 charcoals every night.
i think none has helped i am still taking my meds and sups do i need to stop every thing to detox or is this lack of improvment with all the new detox i'm doig point to infection.
the diazapan really helps the brain stuff, does that fact point to either infection or toxins
thanks for the feedback Scott
Posted by MariaA (Member # 9128) on :
It might be because: -it's a drug that helps you sleep better (I might be wrong about this but other benzos do). Sleeping deeply helps us a lot. -it's a complicated drug that does a lot of different stuff in the brain. I wouldn't be surprised it this was just one of it's effects for you, rather than a sign that it's doing something to infection. I wouldn't think it would have anything to do with detox if it's causing you improvement.
Posted by djf2005 (Member # 11449) on :
The spacy feeling you describe is called de-realization. It comes w/ the Lyme terrain for a lot of us. While there is no specific reason this occurs, toxicity and/or yeast and/or infections and/or metals etc etc are thought to be the culprit so it can get dicey trying to narrow it down. Treating the above simultaneously usually has the most desirable outcome.
Benzos slow down the synapses in the brain allowing you to calm yourself and feel better overall by not feeling anxious or generally "bad" in general. You do not have to be feeling "anxious" to get benefit from a banzo.
Many w/ Lyme have overactive CNS symptoms that can really affect quality of life. Benzos can help calm these out of control CNS symptoms temporarily.
How benzos work exactly is not well known, but they are documented to help pain, anxiety, depression, muscle stiffness, and a host of other things.
They are also documented to be harmful w/ long term use and extremely addictive.
I would not put a lot of weight into you possibly feeling better on it because of "better" sleep because most benzos, and specifically diazapam (valium) induce state I & II sleep but somewhat inhibit III & IIII delta stages which would be the ones that would leave you feeling refreshed in the morning.
Either way, if the medication helps you, use it. Just be mindful of the dose and duration you use it for, and stop it when able.
Best
Derek
Posted by MariaA (Member # 9128) on :
oops- sorry about that. I know Klonpin induces Stage 4 (which is what we need) but didn't realize that valium does the opposite.
Posted by djf2005 (Member # 11449) on :
Don't apologize Maria, I only recently discovered this as well... Posted by Dawn in VA (Member # 9693) on :
Several good CFS docs have their patients on some kind of benzo, too. Same reason with Lyme I suspect- to guide the CNS a bit.
Posted by cantgiveupyet (Member # 8165) on :
Scott I agree with the others I think the Valium is just calming down the over active CNS.
valium and xanax have always helped with my tight muscles. and nerve pain, ..however now I wonder if the valium is the reason I dont wake up feeling refreshed after what Derek posted above...hmmm.
Posted by lyme987 (Member # 22148) on :
I take 1/2 a klonopin when my brain "hurts". After thinking for a long time or doing a complex problem. (I'm a math teacher) It takes the pain away. I think it has something to do with calming down the CNS.
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