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Posted by Pinelady (Member # 18524) on :
 
Interesting article ----now wondering what all else they can't see.
http://aidsmyth.blogspot.com/
He had noticed that doxycycline could protect against HIV-induced cytotoxicity back in 1990.

The mycoplasma detected here is a common problem in laboratory cell
culture systems - they are notorious for upsetting experiments.

I wonder if this notoriety came about because of results like this.

It is
not surprising that a mycoplasma, or some other co-factor, might be
considered in AIDS causality, and the denialists are all over results
like this as proof that HIV is harmless.

But Montagnier only looked for
cytopathic effect - i.e. what do the cells look like under the
microscope.

Look at this paper, from a couple of years afterwards.
I'll post the abstract - basically they showed that the cell line
Montagnier used (CEM in his original 1990 and followup 1992 paper) was
not a pure line - it was partly CD4+ and partly CD4-. HIV can only
infect CD4+ cells as that is what its envelope proteins (gp120 and gp41)
bind to.

It will come as no surprise to those who actually follow HIV
science that in CEM lines, all the CD4+ cells get killed, but the CD4-
cells grow to fill in the gaps (i.e. no cytopathic effect for Montagnier
to observe).
 
Posted by onbam (Member # 23758) on :
 
Was it Lynn Margulis who thought that AIDS cases were either Syphilis or Lyme?
 
Posted by Selection10 (Member # 19578) on :
 
Silly conspiracy theories to say HIV doesn't cause AIDS...

*shakes head*
 


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