Topic: Doxycycline could protect against HIV induced cytotoxicity?
Pinelady
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Interesting article ----now wondering what all else they can't see. http://aidsmyth.blogspot.com/ He had noticed that doxycycline could protect against HIV-induced cytotoxicity back in 1990.
The mycoplasma detected here is a common problem in laboratory cell culture systems - they are notorious for upsetting experiments.
I wonder if this notoriety came about because of results like this.
It is not surprising that a mycoplasma, or some other co-factor, might be considered in AIDS causality, and the denialists are all over results like this as proof that HIV is harmless.
But Montagnier only looked for cytopathic effect - i.e. what do the cells look like under the microscope.
Look at this paper, from a couple of years afterwards. I'll post the abstract - basically they showed that the cell line Montagnier used (CEM in his original 1990 and followup 1992 paper) was not a pure line - it was partly CD4+ and partly CD4-. HIV can only infect CD4+ cells as that is what its envelope proteins (gp120 and gp41) bind to.
It will come as no surprise to those who actually follow HIV science that in CEM lines, all the CD4+ cells get killed, but the CD4- cells grow to fill in the gaps (i.e. no cytopathic effect for Montagnier to observe).
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onbam
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Was it Lynn Margulis who thought that AIDS cases were either Syphilis or Lyme?
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