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Posted by lymegal23 (Member # 28573) on :
 
I have read that lyme can cause dementia alot

So what exactly is dementia from? no one seems to have any idea. its just not even treatable, the brain just stops functioning right for no reason?

Do you think dementia is nothing more than undiagnosed/untreated TBI?

how many of people with dementia do you think really just have lyme and cos?

My boyfriends grandma has dementia BAD. I feel so bad for her. she doesnt even know who her own family is and cant even talk
 
Posted by lymeboy (Member # 24769) on :
 
Alzheimers has been theorized to be linked with Lyme. Lyme attacks the brain, the spirochetes physically get in there. I cannot give a good scientific explanation, but this link could maybe shed some light.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF6QB52WYU0

I am wondering why people like Mcdonald aren't sitting on boards and not the current crop of turds....
 
Posted by lpkayak (Member # 5230) on :
 
"I am wondering why people like Mcdonald aren't sitting on boards and not the current crop of turds.... "

do you know what happened to him???

and lymegal...yes i do think alzheimers and many other forms of dementia are from Bb and so do many others

there is a psychiatrist who believes this and researches and writes about it

i'll pm you his name if you want
 
Posted by jmb (Member # 18338) on :
 
McDonald died of Alzheimer's I think.
 
Posted by sutherngrl (Member # 16270) on :
 
I didn't know he died.

My mother in law just got diagnosed with Alzheimers and of course I don't think her daughters(that take care of her) would listen if I told them it could be an infection. Makes me sad.
 
Posted by mom2kids (Member # 31972) on :
 
I think he did die of Alzheimer's, how tragically ironic. I wonder if it was actually Lyme, contracted through his research?

My 65 year old father has been DX'd with Alzheimer's, but I wonder if it is Lyme. He has many SX as does my mother.

On the other hand, I wonder if I am thinking everybody has Lyme? The more I research it, the more people I think have it.
 
Posted by sutherngrl (Member # 16270) on :
 
I'm not even thinking that Alzheimers has to be lyme, but maybe just some type of infection. There are some clinical trials going on where they are treating Alzheimers with antibiotics with good results. Of course Dr M's research pointed to lyme being the cause of Alzheimers in 7 out of 10 brain samples.
 
Posted by lou (Member # 81) on :
 
You might want to read this on the subject of lyme and dementia:

http://www.miklossy.ch/media/ChapterHandbookClinNeurolFinalPdf.pdf

But I think there is more than one cause of dementia.
 
Posted by randibear (Member # 11290) on :
 
my ex father in law, the last time i saw him, told me he had lyme. he was from upper minnesota near grand marais, i think.

anyway, i found out he later died of er,something, in a va hospital. but i was also told he had very bad dementia.

now this guy was sharp, pilot, etc., really smart. he was oh in his 80's i guess.

but i always wondered about that dementia and him telling me he had lyme.
 
Posted by tama (Member # 33459) on :
 
I had a "false positive" result from a lyme disease test about 20 years ago. Since then, I have been diagnosed with RA, Fibromyalgia, carpal tunnel, neuritis, and tendonitis....Help. I am in so much pain. I recently rescheduled with my Dr. to discuss alternative pain management and a re-test for Lyme Disease.
 
Posted by James1979 (Member # 31926) on :
 
Tama - oh my goodness, it's so sad to read that! There's only a 1-3% chance of getting a false positive using the two-tiered testing, so most likely you were a "true positive". You can't trust any "regular" doctors concerning what they say about Lyme disease.

I highly suggest you start your own threads. Make one in the "doctor's requests" forum asking for a LLMD in your area (include the state name in the thread title), and make another one in the "Medical questions" forum asking for opinions on your situation. You'll get a lot more help and a lot more answers that way.

Good luck!!
 
Posted by randibear (Member # 11290) on :
 
tama, get igenex testing. it's pretty much the only one to trust. your doc and send off for it. ain't cheap tho, i had to pay 400 out of pocket and insurance would not reimburse.
 
Posted by nefferdun (Member # 20157) on :
 
tama, to post your own topic look at the top of this page in the middle, right above "your profile" - you will see POST NEW TOPIC. It is in kind of funny writing. You will get more responses. Sorry you have suffered so long.

About dementia, I have worried I had it with this disease. I couldn't remember practically anything and my thinking was sluggish and confused. It was alarming. After treating babesia (and Bb and bart) my mind is clearer.

Some people with alzheimers do have lyme. They have found the spirrochetes in their brains after death (in an autopsy).
But there are probably other reason people get dementia beside lyme. My mother had it and it wasn't just sad seeing her decline because I could relate to her fear of what was happening. It was terrifying.
 
Posted by mom2kids (Member # 31972) on :
 
Dementia is a term that describes a collection of symptoms that include decreased intellectual functioning that interferes with normal life functions and is usually used to describe people who have two or more major life functions impaired or lost such as memory, language, perception, judgment or reasoning; they may lose emotional and behavioral control, develop personality changes and have problem solving abilities reduced or lost.

There are about 50 diseases or causes of dementia, Alzheimer's is just the one most known.

Syphilis is a spirochetal bacteria very similar to Lyme BB. If it can cause dementia in the late stage, why couldn't Lyme?
 
Posted by Rumigirl (Member # 15091) on :
 
Dr. M didn't die, as far as I know! But he does have Alzheimer's. He worked with the brains and the spiro's unproctected, at least that's how he was in Under Our Skin.

Dr. B, who discovered the Lyme spirochete, now has Parkinson's---same deal---he was exposed. In fact an infected rabbit he was working on peed into his eye!!

I think many, many cases of dementia are caused by LD and other infections, I'm sure.
 
Posted by ukcarry (Member # 18147) on :
 
Mercury too has been linked with dementia.
 


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