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Posted by susank (Member # 22150) on :

Edited - try the link now - it might work w/o the parentheses - the use of - for some reason -is not allowed here?

http://myhealth-center.de/app/download/4226335202/Krause+et+al+2002+2.pdf

The "2" before .pdf need parentheses around it.

See in particular page 135 - Tables 1 and 2.

Five manufacturers listed.

The donors from the countries of manufacture?

Italy, Israel, Switzerland and 2 from USA.

Bb antibodies found??!!

[ 01-12-2013, 12:02 AM: Message edited by: susank ]

Posted by nonna05 (Member # 33557) on :

Oh My God....Help us all...Explain.....so if we got blood at some point .,this could be why we're here??//

computer didn't go to site,,, been on phone with Dell , almost more than seeing doctor's lately

Posted by momintexas (Member # 23391) on :

I can't get the link to work either and it won't let me add the parentheses. (edit - just added the parentheses, but it still didn't want to work)

Can you please cut/paste the article here?

Posted by mom2kids (Member # 31972) on :

I just found it by searching "my health center antibodies in ivig", it was the second article down I think.

Posted by momintexas (Member # 23391) on :

Ah-ha!! Got it - thanks mom2kids!

Posted by mom2kids (Member # 31972) on :

You're welcome...

Posted by susank (Member # 22150) on :

Has anyone been able to figure out what the values next to Bb mean?

Antibodies were detected?

Posted by susank (Member # 22150) on :

I remembered reading the following - which gave me the idea of the possibility of Bb antibodies being found in IVIG:

http://relative-risk.blogspot.com/2011/11/blame-it-on-ivig.html

The patient did not contract LD from IVIG - just the transient antibodies.

It is said IVIG does not directly effect LD.

Me - the brainless one - thinks that it could.

I don't understand the workings. IVIG with EBV antibodies helps folks fight EBV, right?

Couldn't IVIG with lots of Bb antibodies help a person with LD?

I have read where the geographic region of the donors plays a part in what antibodies are in which batches.

ie wouldn't it make sense to try to include in IVIG - antibodies from folks in Lyme concentrated areas?

Posted by surprise (Member # 34987) on :

Wouldn't it be easier to take Transfer Factor Lyme Plus?

What about babesia now being found in the blood supply?

Posted by surprise (Member # 34987) on :

Also, all the antibodies from a IVIG fully leave the body in 4-6 weeks.

Posted by susank (Member # 22150) on :

Further research:

GammaGard/Baxter and their donor program:

http://www.biolifeplasma.com/html/center_location/center_location.html

http://www.biolifeplasma.com/html/the_program/eligibility.html

Note the states for plasma donation - as well that folks with a history of LD can donate. (scroll down). Doesn't that imply BB antibodies could be in the IVIG?

Also:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC96160

Interesting - showing brands with high titers to some pathogens. (scroll down to Table 1).

To me - all this opens up possibilities of IVIG - perhaps a "designer" IVIG. Or at least the idea to choose a brand - and batch??? - from donors/areas where targeted pathogens are more likely to be represented.

ie IVIG from Connecticut vs Alaska.

For those with CVID that receive IVIG regularly -and also have LD - couldn't this be of immense help?

[ 01-12-2012, 09:45 PM: Message edited by: susank ]