MY LLMD DR.C IN CT WANTS ME TO START THE MCDOUGAL DIET WHICH WAS RECOMENDED BY DR.F IN ARIZONA.
THIS DIET BREAKS THE BIOFILM IT IS BASICALLY A VEGAN DIET: NO ANIMAL PRODUCTS,STARCHY VEGGIES AND ALL OTHER VEGGIES, FRUIT.
PROTEIN FROM- TOFU, SEEDS AND NUTS AND TAKE VITAMIN B12.
I NEED ADVICE -- THIS IS AGAINST MOST OF DR B DIET RECOMMENDATIONS.
PLEASE HELP AND THANK YOU
Posted by Haley (Member # 22008) on :
I know that there are different opinions on this diet. I have done the diet for a few months. I felt better at first, but lost way too much weight and then began to feel that my body was lacking something.
My feeling is that this diet could be pulsed just like medication. It's a great feeling to not have your arteries clogged up with fat for a while even if this was not considered treatment for Lyme by Dr. F.
If you get Netflix watch - "Forks over Knives" this is a very informative film about what happens when you take in too much fat.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- HEMP is also a good protein source.
PORTOBELLA MUSHROOMS, too, have a nice protein content.
What about fish? Wild Salmon or Sardines?
Get connected with local groups that offer vegan cooking classes. -
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
THE REQUIREMENTS OF PROTEIN & AMINO ACID DURING ACUTE & CHRONIC INFECTIONS
Indian J Med Res 124, August 2006, pp 129-148
- by Anura V. Kurpad
Fifteen pages of text.
Excerpt from abstract on page one:
. . . In general, the amount of extra protein that would appear to be needed is of the order of 20-25 per cent of the recommended intake, for most infections. . . .
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[note: see what author states about lysine supplementation appearing to help immune function. And L-Lysine can offset Arginine, as I recall] -
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
So you would eat starches and fruit?
good luck with that
Posted by nefferdun (Member # 20157) on :
I started the low fat vegan diet about 3 weeks ago. You cannot have nuts and seeds because they are high in fat and arginine. Arginine is high in meats too so lean meat is not ok. Low fat yogurt is low in arginine and high in lysine so this cheat might be ok now and then.
The diet is restrictive and can be hard to get adjusted to but it is worth it. I cheat a little now and then but overall I stick with it. I am really liking some of the things I have learned to make. I believe when you get the bug into remission, you can be a little less restrictive but you should stay vegan with lower fat. Maybe add in some nuts and seeds then.
Today was one of my better days after a horrible night herxing.
You won't lose a ton of weight because you can eat as much as you want. I have lost 8 pounds but I was 15 pounds overweight. Dr. B's diet recommendations were written a long time ago. Things change.
When Dr. B's diet was written, he did not know about the lipid and arginine requirements of the FL1953 bug. He was mainly concerned about yeast overgrowth on abx. I do not have any trouble with yeast as long as I avoid sugar. I can eat some fruit.
Dr. F believes bread should be avoided not because of the gluten but the arginine. I eat wheat in small amounts. I eat a lot of beans, lentils, rice (black, wild, brown) and quinoa. I can even eat some corn.
If you believe the FL1953 bug exists, then you have to pay attention to the person who discovered it and has done ALL the research on it. Either you believe him or you don't. He says this diet is a must for complete remission.
Posted by WheelWatcher (Member # 34223) on :
Unfortunately everyone has different nutritional issues, different genetic predispositions, and different ways in which their bodies have "adjusted" to chronic infection...
There is no one "right" way to cure all of us, and im certain that dietary needs are as varied as other treatment needs from person to person.
Pretty much I guess we pick something out to try... If it helps, hooray! If it doesnt help.... Back to the drawing board!
Right now we are trying a low carb/sugar, "healthy fats" ok, protein= good diet with no processed foods or non-organic produce... Or trying to move in that direction.
Since we are making treatment progress, i think it is working for us. When things start to plateau, we will look into different diets possibly.
Hubby already has trouble keeping on weight eating a more "normal" diet, not sure we are going to decrease fat intake anytime soon.