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Posted by Carmen (Member # 42391) on :
 
Since Brussels introduced me to this topic I have been looking into it the best that I can. I was surprised today that this therapy is available in my old home town of Salt Lake City, a mere 350 miles away, and where my sons live. I plan to be visiting there at least 3 x in the next 6 months so I may be looking more closely at this treatment.

Meanwhile I have a host of links to explore if you want to know more about this treatment.

The Photon light therapy device costs about 1,600 dollars. I've yet to find out what the homeopathic remedies cost. This site offers a lot of information on how it works and it can be done at home.

Hi -----,


S. S. has put a tremendous amount of work into developing protocols for lyme using the PE-1 and nosode based protocols. Her story was featured in the "Healing With Light" artical. She does consulting to assist many lyme clients with infrared light, nosode, and frequency therapies (using PE-1 and PE-1A devices). She addresses lyme and the many opportunistic co-infections, and also a range of mold and fungus infections. She is located in Salt Lake City. She is having some excellent results.

Her new website new website (lumenergetics.com):

http://lumenergetics.com


Her educational video links about lyme and useful therapies:
http://lumenergetics.com/Lumenergetics.com/Tutorial.html


You can acquaint yourself about the use of the PE-1 (and other infrared light therapy devices) with lyme and co-infection related issues on the lymenet website. I have compiled some relevant links that you can peruse that should be helpful:


LYMENET LINKS
Here are some recent lymenet links with reference to photon therapy and to the PE-1 or PE-1A and Bionic, etc.


Topic: PE1 and the Bionic therapy
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/76824


Topic: Lumenergetics
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ult...198;p=0#000005


Topic: low level laser / cold laser / experiences please?
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ult...123562?#000004


Topic: People who use the Bionic 880, PE-1, LW, etc.- do you think the pulsing rate matters?
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ult...029;p=0#000000


Topic: Photon Therapy
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimat.../125522#000000

Topic: Bio Photons any tip appreciated
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=121575;p=0#0000 17


Topic: Biophoton therapy:
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=123908;p=0


Topic: Steph's Post Germany PE-1 Adventures
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ult...563;p=0#000000


Topic: Uses for the PE1 (and Bionic)
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ult...122448?#000000


Topic: Germany, how much, and how effective?
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ult...551;p=0#000006


Topic: Photon locations
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=120992;p=0#0000 00


Topic: Mold Testing & Treatment
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ult...123170?#000003


This is a yahoo discussion group link:
bionic880-PE1 · Bionic 880/PE1 Discussion Group


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/bionic880-PE1/message/2512


Topic: Photons - Rife -
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ult...112296?#000021


Here is a link that summarizes the biophotonic therapy based approach of Dr. W (in Germany):

http://lymebook.com/bionic-880-photon-woitzel-germany-pe1

**edited name of Dr in Germany**

[ 11-14-2013, 05:25 PM: Message edited by: Carmen ]
 
Posted by C.P. (Member # 38378) on :
 
Wow! Thank you for the wealth of knowledge. Please let me know if you go to Salt Lake City to get treatment and what the results are from the BP Therapy.
C.P.
 
Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :
 
I removed Dr W's... I'll let Carmen do the rest, unless you can tell me exactly what to remove.
 
Posted by sparkle7 (Member # 10397) on :
 
Thanks for posting all the links. I believe this can also be done with the LightWorks by SOTA. I think they are about $325.

FYI -
http://www.elixa.com/light/

I tried it for a short time but I had a parasite problem that I didn't realize. I don't think it was good to use the LightWorks with parasites. I may get back into it again sometime in the future.

The LightWorks isn't as strong as the PE1. You just have to do it for a longer time. It has all the Nogier frequencies, too.
 
Posted by lymeboy (Member # 24769) on :
 
do you know how much treatment is with this clinic?
 
Posted by Carmen (Member # 42391) on :
 
I dont know that lightworks by Sota is capable of delivering the Nogier frequencies. This would be an important factor. If you find out one way or another please let us know.

I do think that if you purchase all the light paddles for the LW is will be more than $350.

Sorry, I dont know how much treatments costs. I may be calling them soon. If you try the lightworks I bet you could purchase the honeycomb set of nosodes at the above site.

Oh, Sparkle7 says LW it has the nogier frequencies so there you have it.
 
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1030033

these are the nogier frequencies found in sota, according to this post in curezone
 
Posted by nefferdun (Member # 20157) on :
 
It doesn't work on Lyme. You might as well buy a magic wand.

LED light is FDA approved to increase circulation to increase healing of wounds. It will also increase endorphins when used on acupuncture points, to help reduce pain.

LDN does this for $20 a month.

I know we don't trust the FDA but I think they are right on this one. This is how this is supposed to work.: You strap "nodsodes" which happen to cost $200, to your belly and shine the light on acupuncture points. The nosodes "tell" your body what to fight.

Use your logical mind. How much money do you have to waste? $1800 would cover a lot of medication that does work.
 
Posted by canadianmama (Member # 36298) on :
 
This interesting article shows some of the new research that is proving that light really does have healing, anti-macrobial affect.

From the Medical Press Article:

"E. researches the effects of both NIR and blue light in the visible range on healing wounds. Among his discoveries is that some wavelengths of blue light can clear stubborn infections – even MRSA, the antibiotic-resistant "superbug" form of Staphylococcus aureus.

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-medicine-reveal-specific-wavelengths.html
 
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
http://yournextwaveaffiliates.com/nasa-uses-led-light-therapy

NASA uses LED therapy for healing wounds.
 
Posted by JCarlhelp (Member # 15957) on :
 
Photon therapy may not be for everybody, just like many of the therapies people have tried but clearly a number of people have benefited from it. I say wonderful. Our quite famous lyme doctor while not practicing it indicates that several of his patients have especially some group in Wisconsin. I use use LDN and photon therapy, and hyperbarics so I hope they all work even though some people think that photon therapy and LDN may be doing the same thing.
 
Posted by JCarlhelp (Member # 15957) on :
 
http://www.photobiology.info/Hamblin.html
 
Posted by JCarlhelp (Member # 15957) on :
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=lllt+laser

For all of you out there that still have students that require term papers here are 3000 references. They still do term papers don't they? My children are all grown up. I think it would make a great project. Did everyone notice the last paragraph of the previous reference about potential "systematic" effects. There may be a lot of unknown but it is not without science.
 
Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
Thank you JCarl, for the very informative posts. It's AMAZING the amount of papers published on the subject today!!

Well, some people do think this infrared LEDs come from outerspace, and you add homeopathy to that, it looks even less serious.

Here in Europe, we buy homeopathic remedies almost everywhere. In Brazil, where I grew up, it is very popular too.

In the US, it has been forbidden too many years, homeopaths have got their medical diplomas chased and forbidden to practice, so not very known there...

Many think herbs and homeopathy are the same. Not all homeopathic remedies come from plants, they can come even from animal organs...

Anyway, this photon + nosode therapy will deal with borrelia basically, and that is it. It will help other things, like cicatrization, energy in the cells, NO regulation, as the paper said... Even hemoglobin can absorb some ranges of infrared!!

But the most clear result we got, was that simply, borrelia just stop being our main problem, and then, the body slowly recovers, and other infections get easier to treat. That has been our experience.

I used the same nosode therapy + photons for many other infections. When it works, it works almost perfectly, in my opinion. I saved so many teeth only like that, treating all sorts of streptococcus infections, and candida there.

What kind of treatment reach deep inside teeth roots in a matter of hours? I have no experience with anything comparable. Improvement is so fast, that is almost unbelievable.

I know it won't work for everyones, as not everyone's main problem is borrelia either, or infections. Or whatever, maybe their bodies do not react to the treatment for some other reason. Parasitism, for example. I do not think this photon works against parasites...

For us at home, nothing worked better and faster, and deeper against borrelia. We are still lyme free, despite many new tick bites on and on.

Of course, we treated loads of things before (cavitations, heavy metals, allergies, hormones, acupuncture meridians and many other infections), so I do think photons did mainly the antimicrobial part against borrelia, and that was it. Without borrelia, our bodies just work again like before.

It is amazing, we are under zero celcius now (frozen) for the whole week, my cat is still coming with about 1-2 ticks a week! We do live in infested area, and I feel these ticks are getting stronger and stronger, as usually, in freezing temperatures, we rarely see ticks.

I wonder how many months a year we are tick free, but it may be only in January, possibly February. March is already tick season here in Switzerland. we're almost in December, it is still tick season here!

I do think not only infrared, laser, but frequency therapies are the future. Like Rife, these frequencies reach so much deeper than anything chemical.
 
Posted by oxygenbabe (Member # 5831) on :
 
Brussells, when you get new tickbites do you briefly treat?
 
Posted by Carmen (Member # 42391) on :
 
In my travels to Arizona this winter I came upon two photon light device that really stunned me. Its called the photon genie and the photonic genius.

the photon genie uses nobel gases in its light tubes. somehow it stimulates the creation of ozone gas in the body. The reports of diseases disappearing with its use are astounding.

the photon genius is a rather large device that you stand inside of and you are hit from head to two with photonic light and infra red heat. It does a full body detox of the lymphatic system.

the company that makes these offers a lease option or pay over time. They are FDA approved devices.

go to www.edskilling.com

I am having very good results with my rife machine and its just about all I use for my treatment now. ive been advised that rife treatments can take about a year to fully erradicate lyme so I continue on. Im in my 7th month now.

Next year I will go to the place I found this work being done in Sedona Arizona and do maybe 6 or 7 sessions with the genius. When I am done with my rife machine i may sell it and purchase the photon genie as it is much simpler to use and certainly the idea of ozone production stimulated in the body is most interesting. i will be looking into it more as time goes by... but i did find that there are two other companies selling similar devices.

here is a video of a man that I talked too early on in my lyme last fall. He used the Photon Sound Beam (similar to photon genie) to cure his advanced facial cancer in just a few weeks. He strongly advised me to get one for my lyme but I had already just made the hefty purchase of my GB4000 and MOPA. He does treat people for free in his home, and people come and stay with him for treatment. He does not sell the machine. So far Ive found little on the use of this with lyme on the net but those who use it tell me that they are confident it will take care of it. This one is made in Odgen, Utah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxl7kV60s1c

There is also another machine made in conneticut buy the same name.. Im not clear if this is the same product or not. http://www.photonsoundbeam.com/article02.htm
 
Posted by JCarlhelp (Member # 15957) on :
 
As there has been a recent inquiry thought I would push this up for any updates and new thoughts on this therapy.
 
Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :
 
I still think photons are a great way to get rid of the borrelia part of the problem. I'm 5 1/2 years well and do nothing for maintenance other than eat right, get enough rest/sleep, exercise, and basically lead a balanced life.

As with any treatment, it's not a stand alone treatment. You have to address all the health issues, not only the borrelia.
 
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
 
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Informational Links:


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=125858;p=0

Topic: What is Photon Therapy?


http://lymebook.com/bionic-880-photon-woitzel-germany-pe1

Full Sample Chapter from book: Insights in Lyme Disease Treatment

Chapter 6 Bionic / Photon Therapy for Lyme Disease

by Connie Strasheim
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Posted by Brussels (Member # 13480) on :
 
I wonder how Carmen is doing, if she did that Violet light treatment she is talking about.

I heard recently about it and it sounds interesting. I don't know, for curing lyme, but for keeping cells healthy, for example...

Has anyone got experience with these argon light bulbs?? Thanks!
 


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