Any experience with this? I read it's a great detox supplement and I want to head off the next crash as best I can.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- It's FAR too stimulating, it has its own MSG as do most seaweeds and in such a high concentration as a supplement, it's a lot of seaweed all squashed into a capsule.
I suggest avoiding it as it can be neurotoxic to the nerve cells for those with the kinds of neurological issues that go with lyme.
This could cause a crash to your adrenals, too. -
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Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- Glutamate / Glutamic Acid can be very destructive to the nerve fibers & function for those with lyme and neurological issues -- & cause irritation, heart rhythm irregularities, anxiety, even seizures, etc.
It's in food, naturally, but in supplements, it can be "killer" for use unless just in a very tiny amount and balanced with magnesium.
Some doctors suggest even avoiding foods that are high in glutamate / glutamic acid for those with neurological conditions. Details here:
Check all supplements and assess diet (and anything that comes into our bodies for:
See post: Caution: Aspartate; Glutamine; and Phenylalanine (3 excitatory amino acids that can be wrong for us when added as supplements, beyond a normal dietary level)
Seaweed has its own natural MSG and can be very excitatory -
Posted by Jordana (Member # 45305) on :
You know I was just reading an old post of yours and remembered I was getting the mini-tremors after gluten free miso ramen yesterday.
I'll probably try like a quarter of a pill, but I also had trouble with Lion's Mane and as of yet can't tolerate glutathione. So maybe a nonstarter.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- Please do not try even 1/4 of a dose. Just say no to this one. It's poison to our nerve cells, why take a little bit of poison?
And even a 1/4 dose can be rocket fuel to adrenals and could take a week or more to settle down absolutely excruciating agitation from that.
It will serve no good, I know from experience - before I came upon the articles.
And please read the articles that explain why I'm so adamant about not taking this at all. Send it back. Please do not do anything that can risk absolutely excruciating agitation and increased pain from stimulating nerve fibers. -
Posted by Jordana (Member # 45305) on :
Hmmmm...ok Keebler. I'll take your word for it.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- Whew ! Hope so. It is that important. Please get it out of your house so you don't forget and then try it sometime in the future. I cannot foresee a time in the future when this would be the right fit for anyone who is now dealing with lyme, et al.
Even if opened, you should be able to get a refund when you explain they should have had a warning on the label about the glutamate content. -
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- "gluten free miso ramen yesterday," you say. I've had that happen, too, with similar products. Often, it's not so much the miso, itself, as some added seaweed. Check the label to see.
But, as you likely had a flavor packet with your ramen, even if GF, check to see and then see if any "natural flavors" as those are often MSG in disguise.
I do fine with Miso Master GF Red and also their GF white miso PASTE [in the refrigerated case of most grocers] - about a generous teaspoon as a cup of soup with other foods in it or just before a meal, not alone. Chives on top are nice.
Yet I cannot tolerate the packet powdered miso such as Miso-Cup brand [specifically, what I had were the green envelopes, Seaweed Miso-Cup®]. * Some very bad experiences from that. I had no idea why at the time.
* to be fair to the company, I'm not saying it's a bad product, just not suited for those with neurological damage or adrenal dysfunction such as in lyme. -
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Posted by Jordana (Member # 45305) on :
I thought it was iffy when I looked at it. But I hadn't had miso in so long and it smelled GREAT. When the little quivers started about 45 mins later I thought it was just me, but maybe not. No miso today, no quivers today.
Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :
- I think you might enjoy and do well with this, again, at the start of a meal or along with a substantial snack. But start with a just a small cup of it. Mix the paste in a little cool water and then add your hot water. NOT boiling water, though, as that can destroy the natural probiotics if too hot.
You might start with just a half teaspoon in a cup of water. No more than a tablespoon a day (in 2 cups water, large mug), though, after you've worked up to it to see how you do with it.
Really nice to put some quinoa in it and top with chives.