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Posted by Misfit (Member # 26270) on :

I value the opinions of the good people here. And I've read various opinions on various websites.

Question...If you were me, would have discontinue the fluoride rinse that your child uses after brushing teeth?

I've had him use this rinse for years now, and I'm getting afraid of continuing this practice.

Thoughts anyone?

Posted by sixgoofykids (Member # 11141) on :

None of my kids use flouride toothpaste, flouride rinses, or get flouride at the dentist. Some of them get cavities, some do not get them at all. I'm not sold on the flouride bit.

Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :

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Fluoride is a neurotoxin. It can make any one feel anxiety, and just sort of like something is wrong (which it is) so it stresses the adrenals, raises excess (harmful) cortisol and triggers the flight or flight response and can even affect heart rhythm. Even a little bit can even trigger seizures in those susceptible. (It sure does for me.)

Other problems with most toothpastes and rinses: dyes, flavorings, alcohol, petroleum products and the leeching of BPA from plastic bottles.

A toothpaste that contains a little xylitol would be better. Xylitol helps teeth resists decay and also helps promote enamel strength. No rinse needed.

Swishing water is still good, or if it's a good toothpaste, a tiny bit with water to swish for a minute will work well, on top of brushing and flossing.

If a rinse is still desired, ONE drop of tea tree oil diluted in ONE cup of water is excellent - just keep swishing until it's gone. Tea Tree Oil usually comes in a tiny glass bottle. Avoid plastic.
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[ 10-24-2010, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]

Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :

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I'd want to know more about poloxamer, but here's a start:
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http://www.homesteadmarket.com/product/266/xylitol_toothpaste

Tooth Builder Sensitive Toothpaste

Get relief from tooth sensitivity and canker sores with Tooth Builder� Toothpaste. It contains 36% US birch xylitol, no SLS and is fluoride and salicylate free. Tooth Builder fights cavities and bad breath, stops most canker sores, and relieves tooth sensitivity . . . .

Ingredients

36% Xylitol, water, calcite, glycerin, poloxamer, cellulose gum, Methocel�, calcium propionate, lactoferrin.

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http://www.homesteadmarket.com/product/184/xylitol_toothpaste

Spry Tooth Gel - 2 fl. oz.

Ingredients:

Purified water, xylitol, grapefruit seed extract (as a preservative), calcium glucophosphate, ticalose (thickening agent).
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Posted by Misfit (Member # 26270) on :

Thank you all so much. I've read pros and cons for and against the use of fluoride. Made it hard for me to make a decision.

I'm thinking he doesn't need the fluoride rinse. We're going to discontinue it. I'm not willing to take a chance with his health.

I'd rather he didn't have a tooth in his head than to have those possible issues from fluoride use.

I can just see his next dental visit when I refuse the fluoride treatment. But he's not having another one.

Thank you!

Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :

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"I'd rather he didn't have a tooth in his head than to have those possible issues from fluoride use." (end quote)

Fortunately, there are safer alternatives to achieve stellar dental health.

At his next visit, explain that fluoride is too excitatory to your son's nervous system and that his doctor has instructed it be avoided at all times.

You can add that you've found good medical abstracts that lead you to using xylitol instead.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

Xylitol, caries - 382 abstracts

one of those:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12592919

Xylitol for caries prevention.

by J Peldyak - 2002

. . . systematic xylitol use leads to impressive reductions in caries incidence. . . .
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Posted by Lymetoo (Member # 743) on :

When I was about 16 I had a BAD REACTION to fluoride put on my teeth. It turned my lips inside out they were so swollen.

So I have eliminated all fluoride for a long time. I do believe it is a poison.

They put it in our water so they don't have to PAY to get rid of it. It is a by-product of some of the chemical companies.

I use NOW brand's Xylowhite toothpaste. My dentist has my chart marked in red so I do not get the fluoride. I usually mention it anyway, since each hygienist is different and they may not remember.

Posted by Misfit (Member # 26270) on :

thanks for the links (as usual) keebler. i thought "caries" was a typo. i still have so much to learn.

he's never had a cavity in his life..but i attributed that to good oral hygiene and regular dental visits.

i already worry about toxins hes exposed to.

what about that stuff that clings to the tartar on the teeth? the school has a hygienist come in and they give the kids those pink chewable tablets that clings to the tartar.

makes me wonder now what's in those tablets.

and tutu..you cant get away from it! guess you've got to be really on your toes.

Posted by kidsgotlyme (Member # 23691) on :

I can remember as a child that everytime I had to swish that flouride in my mouth at the dentist's office I would get a HORRIBLE headache.

I begged my Mom to let me stop getting it. Finally when I was a teenager I told them I wasn't going to do it anymore.

From what I've read, it's not hard to keep your teeth in good shape as long as you take good take of them, floss, and use a good fluoride free toothpaste.

Tom's brand sells a mouthwash that is fluoride free. That's also the brand of toothpaste that I use.

Posted by kidsgotlyme (Member # 23691) on :

I forgot to add- Don't drink the kool-aid....I mean water!! [Big Grin]

Posted by Keebler (Member # 12673) on :

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I forget that some states put fluoride in the water (I'm glad mine does not). A water filter can be a big help with that. It's good to get the chlorine out, too.
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