LymeNet Home LymeNet Home Page LymeNet Flash Discussion LymeNet Support Group Database LymeNet Literature Library LymeNet Legal Resources LymeNet Medical & Scientific Abstract Database LymeNet Newsletter Home Page LymeNet Recommended Books LymeNet Tick Pictures Search The LymeNet Site LymeNet Links LymeNet Frequently Asked Questions About The Lyme Disease Network LymeNet Menu

LymeNet on Facebook

LymeNet on Twitter




The Lyme Disease Network receives a commission from Amazon.com for each purchase originating from this site.

When purchasing from Amazon.com, please
click here first.

Thank you.

LymeNet Flash Discussion
Dedicated to the Bachmann Family

LymeNet needs your help:
LymeNet 2020 fund drive


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations.

LymeNet Flash Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply
my profile | directory login | register | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» LymeNet Flash » Questions and Discussion » Medical Questions » lyme arthritis or post lyme syndrome

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: lyme arthritis or post lyme syndrome
july
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 10469

Icon 1 posted      Profile for july     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Does anyone here have any info or links regarding post lyme syndrome or lyme arthritis.

I would greatly appreciate - I would like to send it to the ID duck that told me I have post tramatic stress disorder.

Thanks

[ 11-05-2010, 11:09 PM: Message edited by: sixgoofykids ]

Posts: 111 | From northeast Iowa | Registered: Oct 2006  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Lymetoo
Moderator
Member # 743

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Lymetoo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Well, there's no such thing a Post Lyme Syndrome, so I don't know if you could find papers from OUR SIDE on that.

Try Pub Med on the lyme arthritis.

Bringing this to the top for help!!

--------------------
--Lymetutu--
Opinions, not medical advice!

Posts: 96222 | From Texas | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
TF
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 14183

Icon 1 posted      Profile for TF     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
"Post lyme syndrome" is what non-lyme literate doctors call your condition after your lyme has been treated for 30 days and you still have the same symptoms you always had.

They don't want to believe their 30 days of meds FAILED, you know. So, they say that your body is still acting as if the lyme bacteria are there and that your body will eventually calm down and these symptoms will just go away!

They have come up with this theory (it is not proven) and that's what they stick to.

Here is a link the ID doctor might take seriously because it was not done by any of our lyme doctors. It is an interview with one of "theirs," instead. It mentions arthritis a number of times. It is just a general lyme discussion:

http://www.wellsphere.com/general-medicine-article/recognizing-lyme-disease/80105

It should be common knowledge that lyme causes arthritis symptoms. Any ID that doesn't know that has something seriously wrong.

Really, I would not waste my time trying to educate an ID doc because they, as a group, have their position on lyme firmly established and they have not budged for 30 years, so you giving him any articles at all will not make a hill of beans difference. The ID docs have too much to lose to admit they were wrong about lyme disease at this point in time. They cannot be "educated" in other words, due to other factors.

Sorry this happened to you. We all have our horror stories to tell regarding ID docs. And, I seriously mean horror stories.

Posts: 9931 | From Maryland | Registered: Dec 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
onbam
Unregistered


Icon 1 posted            Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
PLS is BS. will pm.
IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
july
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 10469

Icon 1 posted      Profile for july     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I found this on the CDC website.

"Most cases of Lyme disease can be cured with antibiotics, especially if treatment is begun early in the course of illness. However, a small percentage of patients with Lyme disease have symptoms that last months to years after treatment with antibiotics. These symptoms can include muscle and joint pains, arthritis, cognitive defects, sleep disturbance, or fatigue. The cause of these symptoms is not known. There is some evidence that they result from an autoimmune response, in which a person's immune system continues to respond even after the infection has been cleared."

I know ID-iot docs will say there is no evidence that supports "chronic lyme", but the rheumetologist that I saw said it was possible to have a lyme arthritis, and this was at the same clinic.

Anybody else with info? I realize it won't do any good to try to educate them. I think I just need it for myself.

Posts: 111 | From northeast Iowa | Registered: Oct 2006  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
sixgoofykids
Moderator
Member # 11141

Icon 1 posted      Profile for sixgoofykids   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Then tell him you have Lyme arthritis. Are you seeing an LLMD? Your LLMD should be able to treat this condition. Someone who doesn't believe Lyme is chronic and believes it's "post Lyme syndrome" will not be able to adequately treat it.

The CDC's site is basically saying there is no such thing as chronic Lyme, that it's some syndrome after treatment that they don't know the cause of.

--------------------
sixgoofykids.blogspot.com

Posts: 13449 | From Ohio | Registered: Feb 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
july
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 10469

Icon 1 posted      Profile for july     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I had seen a neurosurgeon a couple of months ago as my mri showed degenerative disc disease and a bulging disc that is pushing on my spinal cord.
As he was examining me, he was curious to know why I had so much pain in my entire body and why I have involuntary body jerking and why my fingers and legs move on their own.
He talked with the ID doc (that I had seen in 2008) as the neurosurgeon wanted a spinal tap done to rule out some other things and to see if there was possibly lyme bacteria still in my body. The ID doc told him that there is no chronic lyme and that I probably had post traumatic stress disorder. End of that place.

And YES I found a llmd 2 months ago. He's probably the only doctor that has ever listened to me.

Posts: 111 | From northeast Iowa | Registered: Oct 2006  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
littlebit27
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 24477

Icon 1 posted      Profile for littlebit27   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I was so angry the day this stupid "LLMD" (was said to be LL) told me I had "post-lyme syndrome."

Basically means your crazy and it's all in your head...which we know it's not.

--------------------
*Brittany Lyme Aware on FB*
http://littlebithaslyme.wordpress.com/

Posts: 2310 | From Southeast | Registered: Feb 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
sixgoofykids
Moderator
Member # 11141

Icon 1 posted      Profile for sixgoofykids   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Sad that other doctors can see a patient has Lyme but an infectious disease doctor cannot.

--------------------
sixgoofykids.blogspot.com

Posts: 13449 | From Ohio | Registered: Feb 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
sprite8
Member
Member # 28259

Icon 1 posted      Profile for sprite8     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
sorry you had to go thru that. it really makes me angry too. i have had simmilar situations.

--------------------
sprite8

Posts: 38 | From MA | Registered: Sep 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code� is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | LymeNet home page | Privacy Statement

Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please send your donations to:

The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey
907 Pebble Creek Court, Pennington, NJ 08534 USA


| Flash Discussion | Support Groups | On-Line Library
Legal Resources | Medical Abstracts | Newsletter | Books
Pictures | Site Search | Links | Help/Questions
About LymeNet | Contact Us

© 1993-2020 The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
Use of the LymeNet Site is subject to Terms and Conditions.