17hens
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I know Bartonella is very easy to pass to others (cup or fork share, etc) and lyme seems to be throughout families.
But what about Babs? Or must that be passed thru blood so the chances are rare?
My son and I certainly have Babs, but my husband and daughter do not show signs.
And yet, I wouldn't say I've seen much improvement in their Bart/Lyme treatment so it makes me wonder...
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Lyme seems to be throughout families because families generally live together in a tick-infested environment, hence all members are exposed. Babesiosis can be transmitted by ticks, but tick transmission of bartonella has not been conclusively proven. Babesia may be transmitted by ticks, or transferred from dog to dog via dog bites. Blood transfusions may also transfer Babesia.
Transmission of bartonella seems to be limited to cases where the infecting organisms are introduced into the bloodstream by insect bites, scratches, or in a couple of cases, needle sticks.
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Those might be the ways that show in the record books, but I think there's much more to it.
I had a phone conversation a few weeks ago w/ Dr. S. who wrote the Bartonella and Babesia books.
He told me that Bartonella is very, very easily spread. He said it can be spread by sharing cups or silverware, etc. That's pretty easy.
I didn't think to ask him about Babesia.
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quote:Originally posted by 17hens: Those might be the ways that show in the record books, but I think there's much more to it.
I had a phone conversation a few weeks ago w/ Dr. S. who wrote the Bartonella and Babesia books.
He told me that Bartonella is very, very easily spread. He said it can be spread by sharing cups or silverware, etc. That's pretty easy.
I didn't think to ask him about Babesia.
The above is not based on any science. The doctor needs to supply you with references for rumors like this!
Most bacteria cannot survive outside the host or vector.
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17hens
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Does anyone know the answer to this question?
Hmmm, maybe no one does. That in itself is an answer.
----------------------------------------- "The above is not based on any science. The doctor needs to supply you with references for rumors like this!"
The doctor I'm referring to does the science and he is the reference.
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17hens
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OK, let me ask it this way...
What are all the ways a person can get Babesia?
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I don't think so. I've had Lyme and Babesia for a year and half now. My girlfriend and i do not use protection .. and she doesn't have either. I think it's blood to blood only.
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So hard to say.....
3030- A friend of ours who has had Lyme for several years (and is now only realizing what it is all about, beginning treatment, etc.) He is married and they are trying to get pregnant, recently even trying in vitro. We cautioned him telling him about the chances of possibly transmitting infections. His wife said she doesn't have it, she feels fine, etc.. Well, to be on the safe side, they went to see my LLMD. As it turns out, the wife tested positive and is now being treated (and is herxing.) Trying to get pregnant is now on hold.
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Many areas are so endemic, and that is a huge reason why the whole family has TBI's often. But it's not the only reason. Congenital TBI's are common, unfortunately.
And I wouldn't doubt sexual transmission, even though we don't know for sure, and it doesn't always happen. It's pretty crazy that there is no research on this at all.
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I don't think they'll be able to do good research until there is a truly reliable test, that catches 99% or greater of cases, and has an extremely low chance of false positives.
Otherwise, where do you even start?
Right now, scientists say chronic Lyme is extremely rare because they can't find irrefutable proof of the bacteria in most of us, so how can you research anything until you can do that?
As far as babesia, I would think that by simply avoiding contact with blood, you would be fine in terms of person-to-person transmission. The life stages of babesia that science knows about take place in the blood only. There could be other stages in the life cycle we don't know about. But in my mind, trying to prevent transmission via saliva is futile, so why bother? If it's spread that easily, your family has already been exposed. And if it's spread that easily, they could get it from anyone.
The other thing is that treatment for babesia only reduces the amount of parasites, and even that is not always the case (sometimes it could just be reducing the symptoms, but blood levels are the same). So it's like, what's the point of knowing anyways unless you are sick to the point that you're debilitated?
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