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2young2dieMom
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I'm taking ceftriaxone for ALS/lyme and doing well. I just started zith but the paralysis seems to be spreading.

Should I be taking something else instead of zithromax? I've read that Babs can be part of ALS, what treats that?

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Dxd cllinical Lyme 4/2010
Positive for Protomyxzoa but absolutely nothing else in Igenex

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momofthree
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Are you on IV meds? It really helped my neuro issues. I took 6 months oral meds and I kept sliding backwards. 4 months of IV and I was out of my chair. Babs is treated by anti parasite meds like mepron, malarone and herbs like artimisinin
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TX Lyme Mom
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If you are with an ILADS LLMD, then your LLMD will have access to the #1 ALS/Lyme expert, who is the current president of ILADS. We had the opportunity to sit beside him at the ILADS 2009 Conf. in San Francisco and to speak privatly with him during breaks between talks. He is a recovered ALS/Lyme patient himself.

What he told us is that it's important to begin treatment before the ALS patient is in a wheel chair because the Herxing can be too hard and can set the person back if his/her ALS is too advanced. He stated that he was only a few weeks away from being in a wheel chair himself when he began IV antibiotics for his ALS caused by Lyme. He told us privately that advanced ALS patients tended not to do well with IV antibiotics because the heavy Herxing was too hard on their bodies.

That was his opinion at the time. Perhaps he and other ILADS LLMDs who treat ALS have had other more positive experiences since then.

Do keep a good set of daily journal notes because doing so will help your doctor to help you -- and your experiences will be also useful to him in treating other ALS patients as well.

I do know that it took this man several years to reach the point of recovery that he could function again at close to an optimum level. Even when we saw him, he admitted that he had to miss some of the conference sessions in order to rest in his hotel room, but one wouldn't have been able to detect that he had ALS by observing him.

Trust your LLMD and stay in close communication with his/her office because s/he can tap into this man's vast resource of experience in treating ALS/Lyme. THe ILADS LLMDs are learning new ideas at an exponential rate now.

I can think of only one other thing besides antibiotics that has been tried in ALS and that is IV glutathione, but I don't know what the long-term results of those trials were. I also don't know how or when it is administered, whether during IV antibiotic therapy or sequentially, either before or after IV antibiotics. You can ask about it though or you can research it on the internet yourself for more up-to-date info about it.

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Ditto. I hope you have an excellent ILADS-educated, ILADS-member LLMD to conquer infections and one who is also current with antioxidants and nutritional support to help the liver, kidneys and adrenal system.

Heavy metals, mold, other environmental considerations and gluten are also areas in which I hope your LLMD is well informed.
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I see that you posted in "Seeking a Doctor" just last week but have received no reply as of yet. So, CT folks:

Is there a CT llmd who has had success treating many ALS patients? I know there's no cure, but sometimes people are misdiagnosed (hopefully I'm one of them!)

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peter j
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I'd look into XMRV if I were you.

Check this one.
http://www.forums.aboutmecfs.org/showthread.php?6103-XMRV-Patent-application-Judy-A.-Mikovits-Francis-W.-Ruscetti-San&p=99123&viewfull=1#post99123

The people who have done the study on XMRV and CFS thinks XMRV is related to ALS also.

Burrascano also thinks xmrv could be an important coinfection in Lyme:
http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/medicine-treatments/1832764-81910-xmrv-important-from-dr-burrascano

Hope you'll do better soon.

(PS. I know many people who've got worse with doxy if the have ALS like symptoms)

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The real question about XMRV though is whether there is any good treatment for it because most doctors claim that you can't treat a virus. If there's not treatment for it, then I wouldn't want to waste limited funds in being tested for it. Nor would I want my insurance company to have an excuse to say that since it's XMRV then there is no point in paying for any therapies. Personally, I wouldn't seek an XMRV diagnosis for all the tea in China.
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peter j
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I don't think people can be given an XMRV diagnose (correct me if I am wrong) because the XAND isn't a official diagnose yet.

Right now nothing exists as a treatment for XMRV, but there are several things in the pipeline:
ARVs, different combinations of them.

This is not about XMRV; but I also think this finding might be relevant for ALS (I don't know of any studies where they have tried monoclonal antibodies for ALS, but they are using monoclonal antibodies for the somewhat related disease MS). Perhaps this would become a future therapy for ALS.

MS:

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The authors found that the total numbers of lesions was significantly reduced in rituximab-treated patients compared with placebo-treated patients at each of the study time points. The mean number of lesions at week 24 in the active treatment group was reduced by 91 percent to 0.5, compared with 5.5 for controls.
www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/AAN/5552
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