sixgoofykids
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The obvious question is, if you just started smoking, why not quit now while you still might be able to? There is enough stress on the immune system and enough toxins to deal with with Lyme and the treatment for it.
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Why would a person even begin smoking knowing what we know? Please stop, it is terrible for you
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Quit. Smoking is one of the worst things you can do to your body. Not an exaggeration. I can't even imagine that you are being for real. Is this a joke?
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Funny I found this topic today of all days. TODAY is my 4 yr anniversary of NOT SMOKING!
I smoked for 22 years and had developed severe "asthma", COPD and a persistent "hack". I was under the care of a pulmonologist starting in my eary 40's. (that is just plain stupid) Several times I was hospitalized AND had to go on steroids more times that I ever want to remember. The last hospitalization, landed me in for a week on IV steroids and 24 hour oxygen (at the age of only 49). It was absolutely HORRIBLE. All the "asthma", breathing treatments....etc. left once I stopped smoking....almost overnight.
Smoking is not a good idea for ANYONE....NOT EVER. Been there. Done that. Not good.
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Just use good judgement and you will answer your own question.
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Smoking kills all on it's own and you take it up with lyme disease? It means you will never get well.
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But when your treatment fails and you don't get any better... do not question your dr or the drugs.
By you asking this question in the first place, you know it's bad for you and you're just trying to find someone that will say it's ok.
You will not find anyone that will say it's ok.
Please be smart and take care of your body...
It's the only one you get.
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- As you just STARTED smoking, I must say that I am shocked. Smoking causes so many problems - it is so very toxic. I thought that was pretty clear but, depending upon your age, you may not have come across all that information. Smoking can kill you - and it may not have to take a long time if you also have an infection as serious as lyme.
WHY do you smoke? You don't need to answer but whatever answers you give, know that there are many other ways to address the stress (or whatever) that has you going up in smoke and headed to a horrible end unless smoking is stopped: --------------------------
Topic: How to find a LL ND (naturopathic doctor), acupuncturist, etc.
Includes how to find an ILADS-educated LL ND, an Acupuncturist, a doctor of Oriental Medicine (O.M.D.), or a doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine (D.Ay.), certified herbalists or nutritionists, etc.
Includes many articles and books on complementary / integrative methods - & RIFE links.
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Keebler
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- In addition to seeking out alternative methods, you might want to seriously consider counseling if this is not just about finding stress relief. That can be addressed with supplements and acupuncture. If your body just needs more support, that is very understandable and that can be found in many other good ways.
However, there could be other reasons for your substance abuse.
For some reason the need for relief that can also harm is getting in your way. That needs to be addressed and it may take a few months of counseling to help you see through the smoke cloud that you've created to hide something, or keep you from something, etc.
There are so many reasons a person will reach for destructive behavior. Mostly it's to feel better. And that is positive. Please find a counselor who can help you take a strong and decisive stand against the self-abuse.
Counseling can help you develop new coping skills so that you have a chance for a healthy life breathing fresh, clean air and taking good care of yourself.
Counselors - and the naturopathic doctors, etc. - are all very understanding and compassionate. Find one who understands the chemistry of nicotine addition. They will see you as someone who must be in great pain of some kind and will work with you to find the best ways to proceed to lessen that pain. It can be a remarkable journey. -
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This post is making me crazy! You're just trying to get a bunch of people riled up, right? C'mon now!
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- Some people may not have heard. Seems highly unlikely, but it might be the case for someone who never reads newspapers or watches TV newscasts. Maybe someone missed health class in school ?
Even so, when faced with the severity of lyme, someone may try to self medicate, unaware that there are other options (as mentioned above).
By the CNN Wire Staff - November 10, 2010 ---------
Warning: Tobacco smoke can harm your children.
Warning: Cigarettes are addictive.
Warning: Smoking can kill you.
� Tobacco use, according to the federal government, is the cause of 443,000 deaths in the United States every year.
� It remains the number one cause of premature and preventable death nationwide.
� An estimated 30 percent of all cancer deaths are related to tobacco use, officials say. -
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I have a special-needs child that I'm forced to have live in an emergency respite home that is filled with cigarette smoke.
It kills me that he is being subjected to this.
Life is hard enough - please quit now!
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To all that replied - I thank you for your responses especially KEEBLER because she addressed that there may be an underlying reason I took up smoking.
MY crutch is that smoking gave me a feeling of control over my life because of the stress of gaining 60# over a short period of time. I had to change my wardrobe 4 sizes over 3 months.
This was so shocking and I was so disgusted with myself. Every day I Looked in the mirror and said to myself, "I'm in there somewhere.."
So, I decided to smoke because it gave me an out from eating due to the effects of prednisone, etc. and again, a feeling of control of my life as a crutch from this destructive disease. It gave me a feeling of freedom.
"NO, I AM NOT STUPID." I am very aware of the dangers of smoking.
sixgoofykids
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TickTock, do you have a Lyme doctor? Predinisone is dangerous for Lyme patients and is only to be given in dire circumstances, as in life or death.
Sorry about the weight gain.
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Me, too. I'm glad you're in good hands. Prednisone can cause weight gain, from what I've heard from a friend who has MS. Maybe Cortef would be easier to handle?
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Why are we so quick to judge without understanding the underlying causes of an action that is considered detrimental. (with the exception of Keeblers positive input as to the reasons)
I am an ex smoker, and was smoking in the throws of Lyme. I was so beside myself with anxiety, I was ready to chew off my arm. Of course I knew it wasn't a smart thing to do, but coupled with my OCD and other heartwrenching things I was enduring, it was giving me some comfort.
I am SURE there are plenty of others with an horrific disease who smoke for similar reasons.
BTW, name calling is not exceptable here at lymenet and is not tolerated, so please refrain from doing so.
Tick Tock,
sorry you are having a hard time with this. Just wanted to let you know "I get it". I am sure you will take the proper steps toward better health for your self when you can. Don't beat yourself up about it either,
Gael
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Cortef is what is used for adrenal support, not prednisone. I hope you just used the wrong word and you're really on cortef???
Smoking???
Sorry to hear about the weight gain. That would drive me nuts too. But you know what? The one time I absolutely could NOT avoid food and especially sweets was when I was on PREDNISONE. It was AWFUL to feel so out of control.
(I had Lyme, but was being treated for RA .. didn't know I had Lyme.)
I am on Cortef and it does NOT make me hungry.
Please speak to your doctor about this. It could "save you" in many ways.
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sixgoofykids
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quote:Originally posted by glm1111: Why are we so quick to judge without understanding the underlying causes of an action that is considered detrimental. (with the exception of Keeblers positive input as to the reasons)
With the exception of a couple posts, I don't think most were being judgmental, they were just trying to help. I don't think this is a fair assessment.
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I really hope you're not taking Prednisone right now through treatment. Prednisone is what sent me through the ringer and out the dumpster shoot!
LYMIES SHOULD NOT TAKE PREDNISONE. YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM SHUTS DOWN AND YOUR INFECTION MULTIPLIES.
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Six,
I apologize if I offended the posters including yourself who were trying to help. I guess I was upset at the name calling and a few others that were being sarcastic instead of compassionate.
You being a moderator,wondering why you haven't mentioned the rules about name calling here. I see that the message was edited. Not trying to be argumentative, just calling it as I see it.
Gael
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sixgoofykids
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I'm not always thinking about moderating when I'm reading posts. Always feel free to click the report post icon if you see an offending post. We do not read all the threads and even if we do, things are easy to miss.
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quote:Originally posted by sixgoofykids: We do not read all the threads and even if we do, things are easy to miss.
Boy, is that true.
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Hey TickTock4422, I understand your reasons...I stopped smoking around 15 years ago. For some of the same reasons you have listed, I started smoking again.
Not going to get into explanations,,,,
Lets talk real here> we all know there are tons of members on this site that smoke that have lyme and other diseases.
We all understand smoking is very bad for us, and no, we are NOT STUPID! I know everyone has the right intentions, just trying to help.
I'm purposing a challenge>>> TickTock4422, Lets stop together-right now. I'd really like to stop, lets help each other.
If anyone would like to join in, do so. Lets start a new (stop smoking post) and update each other as offten as possible.
Do I have any takers?
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- Why are those who are not a perfect size so loathed?
Weight gain and obesity are often CAUSED by lyme - or other infections. It's also from the adrenal dysfunction from lyme. And from inflammation. and from steroid use . . . etc.
But, we have to be able love ourselves, no matter how swollen or puffy we may be while we go through an illness. To risk lungs and the whole inside of our body to make it look better outside is a terrible price to pay for pride.
First of all, shame on the doctor who put you on prednisone. Shame on all the doctors who will not learn about and treat tick-borne and other stealth infections that can lead to obesity.
INFECTION MUST BE TREATED. Then weight can normalize (all the while, of course, eating good healthful foods and moving in a way that works for us, not against us).
Love. Love. Love. Love is all there is - that matters most regarding our self-acceptance, no matter our size.
. . . It seems likely that these bacterial species could serve as biological indicators of a developing overweight condition. Of even greater interest, and the subject of future research, is the possibility that oral bacteria may participate in the pathology that leads to obesity. . . .
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Lyme is just one of many stealth infections that can cause either loss (early on) or gain (usually later). Whichever, adrenal support is key to normalizing that. (With the assumption that everyone already has a healthful eating plan).
This book is specific to lyme and other chronic stealth infections. The author discusses the endocrine connection and effects of STRESS on a person with such infections. You can read customer reviews and look inside the book at this link to its page at Amazon.
The Potbelly Syndrome: How Common Germs Cause Obesity, Diabetes, And Heart Disease (Paperback) - 2005
by Russell Farris and Per Marin, MD, PhD
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Remember that lyme really messes up the HPA axis (Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal network). The pituitary has much to do with weight/growth. Mess up any part of the endocrine system and other parts suffer, too.
Reminder here: "stress" does not mean to imply a weak or whimpy personality or lack of willpower or character. Stress - is a very serious medical condition stemming from the "stress" infection takes on the body.
Adrenal support is absolutely essential in addition to treating infection(s).
Still, as long as good self-care and non-aerobic exercise is part of our life, until infections are cleared, weight loss may not be possible. For many with infection-caused weight gain, along with good self-care, when the infections were adequately treated, the weight was fast to follow by dropping off the radar.
The "Potbelly" book as several startling examples of that with lyme and Cpn patients.
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VITAL DETAILS - For every person with lyme who is faced with issues about weight, energy and endurance: --------------
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I was calling MYSELF a name...not ticktock. I totally understand how hard it is. That's why it took me 22 years to quit...and yes, I WAS still smoking even after I found out I had Lyme. I just wish I had quit sooner.
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How unfortunate that people immediately jumped your butt, accused you of being stupid or joking in this post. Disregarding the request for SMOKERS to comment.
I'm sorry you decided to start back smoking. And yes, I agree that quitting now while it's just begun is the best option. That said, I was smoking long before being dxed with Lyme. When I found out I had Lyme disease (actually, it as the first MS diagnosis I think, then Lyme soon after) I quit smoking with the help of a prescription med.
It worked for me and I stayed quit for 2.5 years. Then one month I had a tragic and stressful time that had me craving a cig to "calm" me down so bad that I could have eaten one if I didn't have something to light it with. Unfortunately, that "just one" turned back into a bad habit and I've been smoking for almost a year again. Honestly, the only thing I noticed improvement in while not smoking for over two years was, obviously, easier breathing. Tasting things better. Symptoms didn't get better, and haven't gotten worse since restarting. It's not GOOD for me, obviously..and I do smoke organic cigarettes (still not good, but better than the toxins that are in regular cigs). I lost the weight that I badly needed to lose. And I still plan to quit smoking. Because, over all you will feel better and breathe better and know you aren't causing your body more stress. *hugs* Trust me, I know how hard it is.
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- I don't see where anyone called anyone else stupid. The facts are that smoking causes major health problems and it kills. Questions were then, why smoke? Just facts. Just questions. Just caring advice.
I see the posts as reminders of the facts, and I can hear compassion in everyone of them. All are firm and honest in their response. To encourage smoking would be unkind and not in anyone's best interest. I can see that all who responded did so with care. It's a very serious matter, indeed.
And, the LLMDs will all tell you that smoking sharply decreases a patient's chance of remission from lyme. Oh, now and then, a smoker might seem to beat the odds. But if they are still smoking at all, that won't be for long.
It's dangerous. Understandable considering stressors? Yes. Still, with education about alternative ways to handle stressors, the wise choice would be to quit.
As for smoking to loose weight, I think it's very sad that our society has put anyone in the position of feeling bad about weight that is a result of illness. AND there are also many other ways to work with that besides dying from nicotine and smoke poisoning. Many other ways. -
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I don't smoke and never have. I have seen a couple of posters on here before that claim to love their nicorette gum which would at least be a safe way to wean your way off.
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Im sorry for being insensitive. I smoked for many years and I know how hard it is. I tried to quit many times and failed. I Think most people know about the difficulties of nicotine addiction and the harms of smoking, including those who have never touched cigs. Still, as far as i am concerned, there is only one answer to this subject. I am astounded that this is even debated on a HEALTH board. Yes, it is a support board, but telling someone anything besides "quit immediately" is plain irresponsible, and not really a good form of support. - Losing weight - this is quite possibly the most insane and backwards way to go about losing weight. If you truly need to lose weight, that indicates that your weight is affecting your health. So, rather than address the issue and try to tackle the problems that are causing the weight gain, you add another bad habit? Quite possibly the worst habit? No. this is wrong, and reinforcing this notion by providing and example of how it succeeded is absolutely irresponsible. If you want a quick easy solution, you would be better served saving the thousands you will spend on Smokes (especially the "organic" ones) and spend it on a nutritionist and proper treatment. Smoking does not calm your nerves. Nicotine is a stimulant. The only thing that it calms is the receptors in your brain and body that are screaming out for more more MORE cigarettes. It will stress your entire system out, and weaken your immune system immensely. You aren't "calming" anything. If it is helping you to relieve stress, then that indicates that something a bit healthier could do that, and probably do a better job of it.
I am so sorry to hear that you are dealing with so much. I would really encourage you to find another doctor. A Lyme doc that uses prednisone? I don't like the sound of that. Personally, I think Prednisone is a terrible and harmful drug. I watched someone die an agonizing, slow and painful death that ended with Lymphoma. Her dr's were trying to treat RA - Wegner's. The Prednisone I believe is what started her downward spiral. To boot, they later gave her an even worse drug that wound up killing her. I wish I knew then what I know now. I am so suspicious she had Lyme. She didn't have to die. She was a very healthy person until all of that. I cannot even imagine what smoking would have done to her if she decided to start. I am pleading with you, first and foremost to stop smoking. It is the worst possible thing you could decide to do. Please, just quit. You know in your heart that it is dead wrong. Second, please get another Dr. At least go see someone for a second opinion. The gauntlet of Lyme treatment, and getting the right doc is difficult, time consuming and one of the many awful things about treating Lyme. But you have to do it in order to get well. Frankly, I don't even know if I found the right doc yet, and it's been a year, and he is one of the "premier" docs. There are so many people here who will gladly point you in the right direction. I cannot stress this enough. I do not know a whole lot about what you are dealing with, but it sounds like you are not getting good Lyme treatment. Please , your life really depends on it. Icky, You need to quit as well. Stress has certainly brought me back to smoking in the past, and then a year later, I would wonder what happened and beat myself up over all of the wasted money and air..... Please guys, I know I'm not the most sensitive person, but I am concerned.....Sometimes being assertive is more important than being compassionate.
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Any short-term benefit it may give you will be nothing compared to the harm it will cause you in the long run. Smoking alone ruins people's lives and kills them. With Lyme...I can't even begin to imagine what it would do.
I am sorry that you felt you had to do this in order to cope, and that you are suffering from the disease called addiction as well. I wish you the best of luck with quitting.
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I'm a smoker, and I'd go nuts without my cigarettes...I'm up at 3am and can't sleep most nights. It hasn't affected me one way or the other, though I do agree with all the non-smokers here that think it's unwise to start smoking at this point in your life. So if you got this far without smoking, don't cave now.
My question is...how many of the non-smokers on here use a cell phone? If everybody is going to be so down on smoking, why not call people on their cell phone use with Lyme? The microwaves from all our wireless devices is how this bug was able to cross the blood-brain barrier.
So please be fair with our vices...cell phones to me are as disgusting and deadly as cigarettes are to non-smokers, and the look non-smokers give smokers is the same look I give to people in stores walking around with a cell phone glued to their ears. I see very little difference between the two vices, with the exception that the public isn't being warned about cell phones (in the US), kind of like it was in the beginning with cigarettes...
glm1111, I have OCD, too...it is HORRIFIC and keeps getting worse and worse. How serious is yours? I'm tempted to start an OCD/Lyme thread, but I don't even 'get' my OCD anymore...it is so embarrassing...
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- It's important to distinguish education from criticism. To remind someone who asks if they can get over lyme if they smoke, that smoking can be fatal, etc. is just sharing information.
Same with cell phones. None of this is to demean anyone - but to inform and offer alternatives.
Just like the government has for years covered up the toxic chemicals and additives in cigarettes, they do not seem eager to investigate or educate the public regarding cell phone use -- because of corporate money and interests.
From BookTV. Dr. Davis told of a young woman who had an ongoing severe headache and it turned out to be caused by her cell phone.
The lecture had some amazing images (MRI or CT scan, or similar). The proof is in the images - the heat/radiation really invades the blood brain barrier, and targets soft tissue of the head.
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elizza,
I am hoping most of my OCD symptoms have left, but I do feel twinges of it occassionaly. Wondering myself, about other vices people have which is never as condemed as smoking.(I am not advocating smoking)
Alcohol for instance is POISON and kills people daily via drunk drivers, yet it is not frowned upon nearly as much as cigarettes. Wonder how many Lymies still drink?
I agree that we need to do as much to help our bodies heal as we can.
BTW, My severe asthma left way before I quit smoking due to the great herbs I was taking as well as eating very healthy foods. (just saying)
Keebler,
There was a post near the beginning that said " Are You Stupid"? It was deleted after I brought it up.
Gael
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I know. I'm just frustrated with it all. My ex-husband, a heavy cell phone user, had a brain tumor removed a couple of years back. He suffered nosebleeds and mood swings/rages for years prior. I wish I could watch the videos on this computer...I can't though.
I asked my friend to get me a new book that just came out though on the EMF issue. I just can't get over how my symptoms - Lyme, OCD, EMF sensitivity, whatever...seem to follow the cell phone build-out graph in the books I have already, with a HUGE surge in the severity of my OCD in the mid-90's, along with emerging Lyme symptoms back then, too...
Gail, how did you get your OCD to just go away? My cleaning rituals just keep getting more and more involved and complicated. Just measuring and cleaning two ? wall hangings today and wiping the wall down took me probably 6 or 7 hours...no exaggeration. I'm exhausted.
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Elizzza,
I didn't have the OCD symptoms you describe per say, but when I had lesions/scabs on my head I couln't stop picking at them. I would also obsess on the same thoughts for hours.
The way, I got rid of it was taking antiparasitic herbs and salt/c which got rid of a ton of parasites. Hope you can get on top of your OCD because it is not pretty.
Gael
P. S. There is someonein my building who just told me they had a brain tumor (side of head) from using cell phones too much.
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That's an interesting question. The answer is obvious, but that isn't what I find interesting. What I find interesting is you asked. I don't think this is about "smoking" at all. You chose to take up this recently, which tells me many things aren't a choice in your life these days.
Tell me if I'm getting warm here, but you're probably smoking because "you can." With the drastic changes and loss of control that comes into our lives with Lyme Disease, we often take up vices. Some strive to clean their house constantly, compulsively, some eat, some have sex, some try to get that extra push-up at the end of their workout, even knowing it could be dangerous.
I think we're psychologically trying to prove a point when we act like this. One: We have Lyme Disease and it affects our minds, and two, we really do need to be told that their are healthy ways to hang onto who we inherently are. Being reasonable and good to ourselves rather than hurting ourselves can be done in ways that give us control but also help us cope and even get well.
Try controlling your medicines, keep organized notes. Try recording doctors appointments, or keeping up to date with the latest research.
If that isn't your cup of tea, try a to-do-list that you perform each morning no matter how awful you feel, such as cleaning dishes, or brushing your teeth. Pick just one thing if it's all you can do, but choose something that helps you hang onto your dignity while still not hurting your body.
And if I wasn't clear from the get-go, don't smoke another cigarette.
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... are foolish people.
TickTock, ANYthing that the body's immune system has to "deal" with (i.e: foriegn material in the lungs... & elsewhere) takes away from it's ability to fight the Lyme... & co-infections.
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TickTock4422 and Steve1906, I am totally in on quitting smoking together! I was very recently diagnosed with Lyme, and have adjusted my life in so many ways in order to get healthy. I am so close to quitting smoking, but am still having a hard time totally dropping the habit. I can go days without one, and then buckle when I have a really stressful day. I have totally stopped drinking, but the cigarettes are a bit harder to stop. I would love to have some buddies in this. Should we start a new thread and invite anyone else who is in the same boat?
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I think that is a great idea. Good luck guys.
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Correction, I am taking Hydrocortisone but should be taking Cortef. I agree. Physician thought about Cortef, but ended up putting me on the other.
Physician is an Infectious Disease Physician whom I trust with my life. We both understand steroids should not be taken with LYME, but if I have to take it for adrenal support well, I have to.
I had no adrenal support due to my Cortisol level being "0" so when a stressful event comes along, I would crash. ie death of a loved one, divorce, etc. The stress hormone Cortisol is necessary for these reasons and if none available there is nothing to fall back on to deal with the stress or my body to cope.
Don't want to be on this med, but I guess I will just put up with the weight gain until my pituitary gland is secreting Cortisol again. Taking the Hydrocortisone has my Cortisol level normal now which proves to me i needed the drug.
Steve, I am all for starting a "quit smoking campaign."
I developed OCD after the 2nd year of treatment. Mine is germaphobia! WEIRD! Was never like that before. Personality changes too.
Thanks for all the heartfelt responses and I respect both the positive and negative respones as well.
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Gail, what brand of antiparasitic did you take? I've taken wormwood, black walnut, and cloves, though I have to admit I probably didn't take enough cloves as I felt like death within seconds of taking them.
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