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I know the far infared Sauna is recommended but I can't afford it and I do not have anywhere to put one.
so I signed up at LA fitness which is 2 minutes down the street.
the Sauna there is at 180 degrees and is the dry heat type.
I did 15 minutes today and felt good... I was planing on doing 15 min a day
anyone have any information on how long to stay in and is this temp too hot? because I hear everyone with lyme is doing 140 with the home ones? but I have no control over the temp in this sauna it is 175-180 when I went in
any advise on this would be great
thanks
Paul
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The regular heat sauna makes you sweat but it doesn't pull out toxins like a FIR sauna. They do make portable FIR saunas for those who don't have room for a large one. They sell for as little as $300.
The sweat from a FIR sauna is only 80% water whereas the sweat from a regular sauna is 97% water.
There is still benefit from the heat, but it's not the same.
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yea I figured it's not the same but I am still gonna try and cook them a bit
before I was doing nothing so I am hoping 15 minute a day will stir things up a bit..
I will be doing some light cardio / swimming and weights while I am at it.
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I was pricing portable infrared saunas a week ago. I just checked back at ebay... There are plenty still there starting at $85 - with free shipping.
Just search infrared saunas and sort by "price + shipping, lowest first" Then start looking at the ones starting at $84.99
I have not purchased one yet. My son currently has a PICC line and the sauna will have to wait... too much moisture + afraid of infection. For now we are sticking with foot baths.
Let me know if you do wind up getting the sauna. You can't beat it for the price. And each of the sellers seem to have very good feedback.
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That's a great price From the sauna's I've tried I've noticed the carbon flow heaters seem to be better than the ceramic ones. But they are considerably more expensive
If you buy this one let us know how you like it.
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_ "gonna try and cook them a bit"
Be VERY careful. We cannot get hot enough to kill lyme and too much heat can be dangerous for us.
Slow and low work to increase circulation and oxygen and to sweat. A low heat sauna is much safer. -
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Hmmmmm. I never thought of that. What if I built a pvc frame and draped it with something like this ebayer advertises. http://bit.ly/bp979I
It's PVC piping with a drop cloth over it. I could frame it big enough to sit completely in it?
Any other opinions on the "head out" portable sauna?
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quote:Originally posted by Paul Mall: @Momlyme
the saunas you mentioned leave the Head Exposed which is not recommeneded for lyme because everything will run to the head.
I have heard people say they get terrible migrains after using this type of Sauna.
if you do get one you need the kind your entire body goes inside.
there is a Ceramic infared for 847 with free shipping this is the lowest cost for the type of Sauna needed that I could find
I have one where my head sticks out and it relieves my headaches, if anything - I never feel worse afterward, always better. Everything does not run to the head - my head sweats as much as the rest of my body.
I've been using this sauna for over 2 1/2 years and I can tell you it works - better than any other detox method I've used.
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quote:Originally posted by momlyme: I was pricing portable infrared saunas a week ago. I just checked back at ebay... There are plenty still there starting at $85 - with free shipping.
Just search infrared saunas and sort by "price + shipping, lowest first" Then start looking at the ones starting at $84.99
I have not purchased one yet. My son currently has a PICC line and the sauna will have to wait... too much moisture + afraid of infection. For now we are sticking with foot baths.
Let me know if you do wind up getting the sauna. You can't beat it for the price. And each of the sellers seem to have very good feedback.
I sent you pm for a link but then my lyme brain figured it out.
I noticed that the $85.00 ones are called a "portable infred Steam heater sauna" I wonder what that means?
Mine was about $189.00 inc. shipping and does not have any steam only infra red heat. And it looks like this one comes with a white thingy - does that produce the steam/heat?
Do you use this one?
Thanks for you input.
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Hi mojo. I sent you the link. You can ignore my request for what you already posted here! LOL
Thank you. You answered my question!
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I highly doubt it. The object of a FIR sauna is to remove toxins from the fat layer under the skin. It is not to kill bugs.
Toxins are not living things, therefore they can not run.
I even doubt that a spirochete can run from a warmer place to a cooler place in the short time that you're going to be in there, 20 minutes or so. I doubt they could do it even if they had all day to do it.
Even with the head sticking out, the head still sweats and releases toxins, so I think you were given a bum steer about the head sticking out thing.
You might find others that look like the same thing for less money, but read the details. This one has free shipping ($40 value) it's the LARGE size, not regular size, and it has the ceramic heater, not the footpad heater. If you're not a tall person, you could get the same model from the same vendor in the regular size and save a few bucks. But this vendor has the best deals, trust me. I received it promptly and it works great.
You can set it up or tear it down in just a couple of minutes.
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Hi mojo,
Just noticed your questions here when I was trying to compare chaps sauna for $238.87 to the one I found fro $84.99
I have no idea how these work. No I am not using one (yet) but I am very interested in buying one to detox myself, my son, my dog, and it looks like my husband has some symptoms.
I would really appreciate any input from people who have used these... what do you think of the ones being sold on ebay?
There are three links in this thread (including the one I just posted) If anybody has any info good or bad on these, I would love to get a clue as to what I am actually looking at!
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I bought mine on ebay 2 1/2 years ago (I sent this info via PM too LOL) for about $180 inc. shipping. It looks exactly like the one Chaps gave a link to above.
It has the ceramic heater, etc. and is Large size (or maybe XL can't remember)
The sauna and my rife are the best things I've ever purchased.
When my husband put it up for me he said it was a piece of junk - now he thinks it's great! I use it one to four times per week and I've had it for so long.
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Nice tip Mojo. Does anyone know if this effects a port with a central line? It's under the skin but I still wonder if the thing will melt.
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The one you linked to says that it has an an "infrared steam" heater.
It doesn't say that it's a FAR infrared sauna.
In the one I recommended, the side and rear panels (3 of the four interior walls) contain carbon infrared generating panels. The one you linked to I don't think has infrared generating side panels.
The one I recommended has a little hand-held control console that controls the infrared ceramic heater and the carbon panels.
The one you linked to doesn't show a hand-held control console.
I think the 84-dollar one is just a little "hot box" with a steamer unit. It may use infrared technology to generate the steam, but nevertheless, it's a steam sauna, not a FAR infrared sauna. That's why it's only 84 bucks.
The far infrared part is the most important part because it's the FAR infrared heat that draws the toxins out from deeper in the body. Steam doesn't do that.
The model that I recommended doesn't generate any steam. It generates infrared (dry) heat.
There's not a big markup on these things, it's unlikely that there would be such a disparity in price for a product that's exactly the same.
There are other saunas like the one I recommended that might appear slightly less money, but the vendors are in China. By the time you pay the shipping and other charges, the cost to acquire will be higher, plus you'll have to wait a long time for it to come from China.
Believe me, I spent lots of time researching the finer details of these things, calling the vendors where possible.
Hope this helps.
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So, chaps, in your research were you able to substantiate that none of the materials from which this sauna is made emit toxins of their own in the heated environment inside the sauna? One advantage I see to a head out sauna is that one needn't be concerned about breathing in toxins, but skin absorbs things, so I'd want to be sure I wasn't adding anything that may cause a sensitivity. I do not know much about this type of sauna.
I've been looking at and researching walk-in wooden saunas for nearly a year now and am still unable to settle on one. I've been sick for a long time and as a conequence I'm very sensitive to multiple materials. The saunas I am currently considering are made of aspen wood (white poplar), have no interior plastics, use no glue in construction, and use no sappy woods for framing. They're expensive but may be the best bet for someone with multiple sensitivities. I tried one out and it was a good experience.
I'd sure rather spend a couple hundred dollars than several thousand, though, so anything you can share about the portable saunas and toxins would be helpful.
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I worried about toxins, too, but since I feel so much better afterward and I've pretty much eliminated my MCD (through detox) I am very comfortable tham mine is OK.
I go in for 40 to 45 minutes at full temp and I am dripping when I get out. The King size pillow case I sit on and the towel around my neck is dripping wet,too.
I was shopping for a step in sauna but I worried that I wouldn't be able to "breathe" (I can't breahte in regular saunas). I just can't tolerate hot air. I bought this sauna as a stepping stone to a step in but I like it so much I never bothered to upgrade.
As far as a pick line - I've heard you can't really sauna with one - even the infra red causes sweating so I don't think it's an option.
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I invested in a Sunlighten portable sauna not long ago. It was expensive but I'm hoping worth it. I have issues with my head being tender the way it is (it hurts to even lay it on a hard surface) though i don't really get migraines. I have tension headaches every so often but rarely need to lay down in the dark for them.
My head sticks out of the sauna and i lay in there for 30 minutes, I sweat pretty hard and i'm not a big sweater on any given day.
Sunlighten makes the Spungi towels, again..kind of expensive, but they soak up the sweat almost instantly so that way you're not laying in a pool of toxins.
I have been a little more mentally messed up since starting treatment, but I can't say if its due to sauna or the abx. I don't think its from the sauna, i notice negative mental reactions following exercising.
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My ND recommended that I get the portable sauna. She sold one for $300 at her office. By searching and comparing on Ebay, I saved myself 60 bucks.
Since the doctor highly recommended that I buy one of these things, my research was limited to features and prices. I didn't get into toxin emission and hadn't even heard of it.
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Chaps- That's all good information. Thanks. I had no idea there were carbon panels -- this is all new to me.
I actually stopped researching these when I found out my son couldn't use it right now because he has a picc line.
I may just get one for my husband and I to start detoxing now that I know a little bit more about how they work...
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Paul Mall - I don't think there's any problem with one's head sticking up outside the portable FIR.
I've tried it many times at expos here and always feel much better afterwards. The whole point is to sweat, and that happens just fine.
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