Topic: Recommended Order of Treatment -- The Babuschka Principle
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Order of treament following the Babuschka Principle:
Human being - then parasites - then metals - then fungi - then bacteria - then viruses ---
Grandmother Babuschka holds all others when stacked together. You all have seen those stacked dolls somewhere before. Here is the Human, next to it the Parasite actually living in the human; followed by the Fungi living in the Parasite, etc. etc.
Parasite is holding on to toxic metals. Metals are causing fungi growth. Bacteria are the smallest
All live within each other.
If patient is weak, supplement what is needed first.
Start treating KPU in the beginning, when that is positive, because the microorganisms feed off vitamins, minerals and trace minerals, and KPU facilitates everthing else.
This is the order of treatment recommended by Dr.K. with only slight variations.
I received this from my friend, one of the best Klinghardt practitioners in Germany after they just finished their three-day seminar with Dr. K. I was always aware of this, but this illustrates it best.
Detoxing of metal, i.e. lightening the burden, starts early. Once I started to deal with toxic metals, teeth, etc., parasites started to appear and the rest followed as above. All fits exactly the pattern I went through to arrive at well.
ART (Autonomic Response Testing) signals this exactly. I find the same thing when testing with tensor. Detoxing metals was followed by parasites, etc. etc.
Take care.
(If someone can show me how to move the dolls right above my text, please do. I am a computer nerd and tried, but couldn't.)
P.S. 11/27/11 Thanks Sparkle. My son finally came over and taught me.
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Sorry, glm1111, I fell asleep before I could finish. Thanks for taking another look.
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Thanks GiGi.
Hope you had a good nap. This is a VERY good analogy of what's going on. I really am a firm believer that getting rid of the parasites is key.
Had another thought about how parasites can travel from one generation to another. Would that fall into the category of a Miasma?
Thanks for posting this. Love the Babushchka dolls. Reminded me of my grandma who was from Russia and would often wear one.
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Speaking of miasmas....
Take a look at this -
Current science associates Spirochete treponemas mostly with Syphilis and Leprosy. We have discovered different treponema forms that are not either, yet destructive in less obvious ways. Below is a review of the Spirochete developments as of this date.
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Sparkle,
Thanks for sharing this. I am having problems open certain files. This is one of them. It says for me to find the file and I don't know how to do it. I have to call Dell to figure it out.
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TICK BORNE/RELAPSING FEVERS
Spirochete is most commonly associated with Lyme Disease in today�s lay mind. This sheet explains how the definition of its effect is far beyond Lyme Disease. On a separate sheet entitled Lyme Disease we have shown that Lyme is just one of tick-borne diseases and listed a number of other relapsing fevers, or tick diseases known in the world.
Spirochete is a class of bacteria that carries some of the world�s most dread diseases. Today�s science divides Spirochete into Tick- Borne/Relapsing Fevers plus two forms of treponema (1) Syphilis (venereal and non-venereal) and (2) Leptospira. It should also be noted that because of the appearance of Spirochete under microscopes, it has been thought of as a parasite. It is indeed parasitic, but it has for thousands of years acted as a bacteria.
SYPHILIS � VENEREAL
Treponema Pallidum is the form cited as the cause of venereal syphilis. We have made the remedy Syphilis and have good reports as to its effect on the disease. As many diseases are cyclical, active venereal syphilis is currently increasing. It is especially prevalent as an accompaniment to AIDS.
We often find this still active in people who once had syphilis and took medicines for it. We often find it in people who cannot recall ever having an outbreak of it. It flags its presence when most every health issue needs more than the average number of remedies and the healing is remarkably slow or insufficient. Nothing heals well in the presence of venereal syphilis. If this is found, it is wise to put it in the first stage of any healing program.
Venereal syphilis travels in different forms than venereal. Some people received active cases in the birth canal or blood stream of their mothers.
Mothers may not have known they had it (and still may not know). No sign of venereal syphilis was ever spotted in the child�s reproductive organs. There was a remarkable case in which a lady received it from her mother and passed it on to her husband and children. The family was always sick.
Every strain of the latest bug hit them hard. They caught colds and intestinal bugs easily. The whole family took the remedy simultaneously and remarkably improved their whole health picture as a group.
There are a huge number of cases where syphilis passed in the blood stream from mother to the children and lodged in the brain. When we check for general syphilis, it doesn�t check. When we check for syphilis �residue� in the brain,
it checks positive. The key clue is to ask the subject what their relationship is/was like with their mothers. Usually there is a look as if to say the relationship was impossible, difficult or crazy. The subjects often have a fear of becoming like their mother.
Because the issue is only with the mother, it distinguishes the issue as a �residue� of the active disease. (There may also be issues with the father, but the residue cannot pass from father to child, even though the miasm can pass from father).
Because of the social view of syphilis, we made a remedy called Brain Nibble, which is the same formula as venereal syphilis. Practitioners often shift to this remedy describing the remedy for a bacteria in the brain that slowly deteriorates the brain.
When asked for more detail, the response is that it is a form of treponema. The conversation often ends there. If there is a strong pursuit of detail, it is often described as similar to syphilis, but not full-fledged venereally active syphilis � therefore there is an innocuous name.
All of the descriptions are accurate. The name was chosen so that a person, in lay understanding of the bacteria, would not go into social panic. We created Brain Broil for a form of leprosy spirochete bacteria found to invade the brain.
The name came from the observation that people who have it have some part of their body or some part of their life broiling.
Further findings show that gonorrhea can also pass in the blood to the brain. We have a remedy called Gonorrhea. We named the brain version Brain Crowd.
It has been amazing to find that many people have both syphilis and gonorrhea passing from mother to child and lodging in the brain. Again the mother is described as �strange� or worse (there are clear exceptions where mother has subdued the infection in her demeanor.)
We call the remedy for the two (syphilis and gonorrhea in the head) together, Cell Sensitivity. The findings and the testings continue. We are amazed to find that when Syphilis and Gonorrhea in the head combine with Brucellosis in the brain, the result is massive chemical sensitivity and many other issues not working.
It is as if the brain has closed down the body�s ability to metabolize most everything. We call the remedy for the three together, Chemical Sensitivity.
PICTURE WITHHELD (IT�S GROSS)
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SYPHILIS � NON VENEREAL
In underdeveloped areas of Africa and Southeast Asia there are many cases of non-venereal syphilis. We have named the remedies by their recognized name. They are excluded from our User Guide because most of our work is in developed areas.
Yaws is caused by Treponema Pertenue. It starts as a single papule ranging from the size of a thumb print to the size of a heel print. It progresses from the look of hives to a crusty group of papules and can often ulcerate into yellow/brown crusts. Like all forms of syphilis it eats cartilage, bone and flesh.
The entire septum of a nose can be destroyed. The term �sabre tibia� describes how it so deteriorates the shinbone that it bows like a sabre. Some develop walnut-sized bursitis on or near the knee cap. Fingers and ankles can puff out like slender balloons. The bottoms of the feet often break out in a field of plantar type warts.
Bejel is caused by Treponema Balantides (sub-species of Pallidum). It is also referred to as Endemic Syphilis or Firjal. Like all forms of syphilis it eats cartilage, bone and flesh. The entire septum of a nose can be destroyed.
The bottoms of the feet often break out in a field of plantar type warts. The papule groupings look more like shallow volcanoes than the tree blight look of Yaws papules.
It is distinguished by papules breaking out on the inside of the upper lip later developing into destruction of the jawbone. It also appears like venereal warts on sexual organs.
Pinta is caused by Treponema Carateum. It is common in South America as well as Africa. Its main characteristic is the patches of white skin. It seems to take all color out of even black skin. It is similar to what we see in the West as severe Vitiligo.
Seminar Graphics
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LEPROSY
Leprosy (remedy by same name) comes from a form of treponema called a leptospira. The general description of the infection is called leptospirosis.
It seems like better studies have been done of this disease, often called Hansen�s Disease.
It is one of the oldest diseases known, with mention in books dating back thousands of years. Its most common form is the deterioration of flesh and limbs that is so gruesomely displayed that the name of Leprosy has a disdainful image for all of society.
Yet there is considerable evidence that Leptospirosis can manifest in many different ways. It affects men more than women by a 2:1 ratio, mostly because men are more commonly in the most hazardous occupations which include sewage, slaughterhouses, agriculture, fishing and veterinarians.
DNA studies are showing 23 serotypes and 200 serovars (sub-species). It has been found in 160 mammals as well as birds and fish. Its most common carrier is rats. It is clearly known to pass from animals to humans.
Its most common carrier is water where it can survive for many months.
It is presented as more common in under-developed countries where sanitary conditions are low. When it first infects, the symptoms are an influenza-like illness, fever with conjunctive irritation, chills, severe headaches (frontal and retroorbital) (sometimes with photophobia), nausea, vomiting, muscle pain (especially in the calves, back and abdomen), mental confusion and pulmonary involvement (cough and chest pain).
There is a strong relationship of Leptospirosis with Tuberculosis (see separate description). Tuberculoid Leprosy presents as thickening of cutaneous nerves that are numbed plus saucer-shaped lesions. It is considered fairly easy to defeat and we have found the same. We use the remedies Leprosy and TB Enzymes.
Another form more dangerous is described as Lepromatous Leprosity. It is described as involving many systems of the body, with widespread skin lesions and nodules, plus strong deterioration of skin, nasal septum and bone.
It sounds a lot like the cases of non-venereal syphilis. It is also known for testicular atrophy, gynecomastia (male breasts), peripheral edema (as we see in Yaws) and involvement of the reticuloendothelial system (a system of immune defense and disposal of waste products).
1990s LEPROSY DISTRIBUTION � THE DARKER THE DENSER
The above official map of distribution tells us why we hear so little of Leprosy in the Northern hemisphere. Note that the greatest distribution as observed is mostly below the equator in the southern hemisphere.
The subject is therefore unexpected in western countries. True, it is not rampant, but it is here in less observable form. Seminar Graphic
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NOW FOR REALITY
As we investigate the treponema issue, several revelations have led us to new discoveries. It is reported in medical books and verified by technicians that one kind of treponema cannot be distinguished from another kind under the microscope.
It takes considerable work to find different kinds and very expensive equipment. Therefore most treponemas are identified primarily by the outward, physical manifestation.
Many so clearly identified previously are gross in their outward effect on the body and no microscope is needed. This may change as DNA equipment becomes cheaper and more wide-spread.
In an earlier study of parasites we noticed that medical books were claiming that most parasites were everywhere except the developed world and, especially not in the United States and Europe (where most of the books are written).
We found the parasite statements to be pathologically false. Parasites are everywhere as a part of life. It is true that they may not be so dangerous and prolific in countries with better sanitary conditions, but it is not true that they are not present.
Similar to parasites we find that treponema infections, additional to venereal syphilis, are very much alive and causing sickness in the �developed� countries.
The insinuations and social stigmas around Syphilis and Leprosy have led us away from their discovery.
THE SPIROCHETE FAMILY AS WE HAVE DISCOVERED SO FAR
As we take off the blinders we are discovering multiple new Syphilitic Treponemas and Leptospiras plus miasms of many. We have even found a whole new classification that we named Necrospiras. We find that they are fed by Tuberculin, a toxin from the decaying Tubercle bacilli.
Almost no one is without these treponemas and the infection is as deep and important as �The Basic Four�. Treponema Sweep was created as a general sweep of the visceral organs for multiple forms of treponema that are not bound into miasmic combinations.
Blood Oxygen Carrier was created to clear an almost universal disease of Treponema disabling hemoglobin so that it not only could not carry enough oxygen and iron, but it also picked up excess carbon dioxide.
It is our hope that these missing links helped to produce Remember and Remember More, remedies definitively aimed at dementia and Alzheimer�s. One of the treponemas has a destroying and blocking effect on acetylcholine.
Another inflames the meninges of the cranial nerves. DO NOT take this remedy just before bedtime, if you want to sleep. In the first dose of the first bottle it opened minds.
MARROW SPIRA ENZOSPIRA CARBOSPIRA EMBRYOSPIRA NECROSPIRA 14 FORMS SPIROCHETE TREPONEMA PALLIDUM (SYPHILIS) LEPTOSPIRA (LEPROSY) RELAPSING FEVER TREPONEMAS 23 FORMS (NON-VENEREAL) LEPTOSPIRAS 5 FORMS
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The miasms of these undiscovered spirochete have helped us go another step deeper in finding and antidoting diseases not yet acknowledged by current science. . Many of the discovered Spirochete have been found in the blood destroying specific substances. They are being tested as you read this. The group are called Blood Healers (BH). Some have already shown their symptoms.
BH Red Blood Cells have symptoms of losing a sense of self worth and ability. The blood is weaker and the self worth gives way to despair. Most of the names explain what is being destroyed by the bacteria.
If you look at the pictures of destruction in this paper caused by the forms of syphilis and realize this is the same family of bacteria, you form a mental picture of what happens.
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Sparkle, could you give the link(s) to this info you posted. It is most interesting. Thank you.
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It's from HEALERS WHO SHARE. I think I've read here that some people do well with their protocols. A bit unconventional but who knows...? Seems like an interesting approach.
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Sparkle, sorry, I found the link higher up - but have a million things going right now. Healers Who Share is very similar to Allergie Immun. But a lot more expensive and with emphasis of individual infections. To understand the difference, one really has to read the sites to understand the emphasis of either one. Individual diseases vs. correcting the DNA on a wide basis enabling the immune system to step into action overall vs. a single diseases inherited and acquired.
Knowing that you have worked with parasite situation with yourself, my husband is now in hospital and rehab with effects of Lungworm (Varetrongylus Klapowi) that was suspected years ago by Dr. K., but surfaced now with debilitating symptoms during and after toxic metal outlow. Being treated now by Dr. K. and Dr. A.D. and it "ain't" easy.
I got insect bite in 1996 near grazing cows on the Big Island of Hawaii -- www.ratlungwormhawaii.com
Read and wonder. The creator of these bugs did a hell of a job. I refer to him as Hitler's long fingers. I survived World War II with minor damage. I survived inspite of him, but he got to the dearest I have, my husband.
Treat Parasites! after you lighten the toxic metal burden. Toxic metals and others are held in coat of parasites -- Dr. K. calls them "the knight in shining armor". "They have the ability to store an unbelievable large amount of metals in their skin without being metabolically disturbed by it".
Thanks for posting the Healers info
Take care.
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Please help me out here. What should be taken to get rid of these parasites/bacteria. I cannot read through the whole paper right now, but I noticed a piece about a family with an acquired infection passed on to husband and children that were cured.
What is taken to cure this? Is it simply treating the parasites?
Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question. I just feel it might be part of my problem.
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Lauren, my favorite holistic health site where only well known naturopaths et al post their articles, is www.healthy.net highly trustworthy information. You could do a subject search here. See also www.christopherhobbs.com I trust him absolutely implicitly.
Gigi, very interesting thread thank you. The question is:
Why would metals be detoxified prior to parasites?
I would think that parasites would contribute to leaky gut, which will only make the body *extremely! and dangerously* vulnerable to metal toxicity in chelation therapy. Dr Leo Galland writes that in leaky gut, the bile itself becomes toxic and backs up into the gallbladder and pancreas, causing pancreatic insufficiency and liver/gallbladder cancer. Not to mention the leaching of metals into the bloodstream and being circulated everywhere in the body, the liver is toxic to begin with so how can it break down the metals? Etc etc.... See Dr Galland's article here (sorry it's medical terminology, hard to read but also by far the most informative I have seen yet for leaky gut http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.aspx?Id=425
I would absolutely never, never do a heavy metal detox with leaky or irritable gut going on...parasites would only add to this....
That is at least my thought.
Forgive my very strong feelings about this, it's based on personal experience with leaky gut and tons of reading. This fervor is never meant to be anything personal to anyone at all....
Very interesting thread once again, I learned a lot...
Love to hear what Dr K has to say about this? Why metals first and cleanse parasites thereafter?
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Lauren,
Do a search on here by typing parasites into search bar at the top of the page. Also google parasite cleanses. Lots of good info.
You can also check out the Humaworm website for symptoms list. Hulda Clark, Parastroy to name a few.
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CI, my practioner said that (and this is about yeast, not parasites per se, but I think it applies to leaky gut) that the biofilm can be full of heavy metals. If you don't break up the biofilm, you can't get to the yeast. She seemed to be suggesting if the biofilm included heavy metals, you had to remove some heavy metals to break the biofilm.
I do think there are different levels of chelating, though. For example, both my daughters have very low levels of glutathione. In giving them trans-dermal glutathione, I am increasing their ability to detoxify. There are other gentle ways to improve the body's ability to detox without going to, for example, IV chelation.
Not sure if I'm making sense, but maybe some gentle detox/heavy metal removal is helpful first, but hard-core chelation would be inappropriate with leaky gut?
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Chiquita,
I have same question as you. Why metals before parasites?
Seems as though parasites release metals - would just be a self-perpetuating cycle if we attempted to mop up metals before treating parasites, lyme, cos.
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This excerpt from GiGi post above provides one potential reason to do metals before parasites.
"Treat Parasites! after you lighten the toxic metal burden. Toxic metals and others are held in coat of parasites -- Dr. K. calls them "the knight in shining armor". "They have the ability to store an unbelievable large amount of metals in their skin without being metabolically disturbed by it"."
If the parasites are holding metal in their skin, perhaps getting some of the metals out of their skin would allow the parasite treatment to work better (if the metal is protective for them).
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The metals are not sitting there waiting. They are stored everywhere - extracellularly and inracellularly. That is why it is so important to time the attack in the proper way. A bit of chlorella will work extracellulars, but the rest is a lot more tricky requiring more than one agent to get them out. There is really no such thing as "chelation". Dr.K. chuckles about this word.
KPU - a severe mineral deficiency causes leaky gut. It is not possible to detox heavy metals and others without a solid mineral base. As long as you suffer KPU, you are lacking some of the important detox minerals. So as long as that is the case, the leaky gut will probably keep leaking and it will certainly keep on leaking unless you correct the DNA allergies without wasting more time.
Treat KPU, treat allergy dysregulations with AI (I don't know of any other allergy elimination besides AI that is permanent) and start getting rid of some of the extracellular metals (they are everywhere) and at that point leaky gut will have a chance to heal. Metals are desposited in all body compartments, some extracellularly and some intracellularly. Both take a different detoxing approach. I am told it would take a year, year and a half, etc. to heal leaky gut. I did not have a leaky gut problem and I also had no wheat or any food allergies. Leaky gut and grain problems go hand in hand. So you have got to put an end to the allergies before you can permanently be successful. But it is difficult to heal if you don't stop the allergies and bring your mineral base up so that you have the material to deal with all detoxing, especially metals.
80% of Lyme-afflicted have KPU. Read up on it. www.hputest.de (pick the English version and do the test on that site) KPU is treated in Germany and other parts of the European Union by many doctors. Dr. K. recently gave me Kamsteegs book in German who is sort of the father of this treatment and it became very clear to me that his first warning was "wheat, wheat, dairy, no no". Well, AI gets rid of that very quickly.
Th correction via AI is quick, but detoxing phase following the correction is what takes time, and that includes healing the leaky gut. It takes adding the missing minerals before that can happen, and clearing billions of cells takes time and cannot happen overnight.
I thought I had dumped metals over the previous ten years - and was surprised how much was left in hiding in my body. I am still dumping with every bottle of AI (#20) and also without the drops --- the spigots have been opened and the stuff of 12 root canals and the metals that lead up to them is still leaving my body. I had the actual metals removed in 1998! That is how toxic we can be. I am still keeping an eye out for some of the ignorant dentists hoping I run into one in a dark alley some day! Luckily I felt good again after the first few years of detox initiated by Dr. K. treatment.
So rule out KPU or start supplementing. Get the AI test and learn about your DNA errors. Start AI if you have any. And treat parasites. Then you have a chance at getting at the microbes sucessfully. That would be my tour if I had to do it all over again. Unfortunately, little about all of that was known over a decade ago.
Take care.
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You have to start all action re metals and parasites by correcting the nutritional deficiencies. Nothing works when your body is depleted.
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Gigi, I love your body of knowledge and your passion. You contribute a lot to this site and are a valuable resource. It is great how much info you have directly from Dr K and can enrich us with.
So with all due respect, I still have a problem with the idea of treating heavy metals first before leaky gut.
A) Leaky gut can be minor or it can be very dangerous. It can lead to MS, schizophrenia, and even cancer according to Dr Leo Galland, and ultimately if bacteria translocates via the blood (seaped in through the gaps in the gut) it can cause organ failure and death. Everything has a continuum and just because we have leaky gut is not a death spell, again it's a matter of how bad it is. However it is not to be fooled with.
The physiology of this is such that to detox anything at all with leaky gut present, is a recipe for disaster. Think about metals entering the bloodstream via the capillaries which feed into the gut lining, then attaching to cells. The cells are mistaken as "non'self" by the immune system and attacked, causing tissue decay and auto-immune disease.
B) Metals are known to be the most noxious among the toxins. It is not an accident that naturopaths prepare the body at length before starting a heavy metal cleanse.
C) as above, Dr Leo Galland writes that with leaky gut, the liver bile becomes toxic. Add heavy metals to this already toxic brew. Then the bile can reflux back to the gallbladder and the pancreas, causing cancer in both areas. With heavy metals contained in that toxic brew, it's even worse. Bad, bad, bad!
D) According to Elizabeth Lipski in her booklet titled Leaky Gut Syndrome, the gut lining itself does not require long at all to heal. Once properly addressed (remove food allergens, medications, other causal factors and add supplements to build up the gut lining) then it can be a matter of just a couple of months.
What does make sense however, is for the disorders arising from the leaky gut to heal, these could take longterm depending on what they are. Could it be that this is what you had heard would take a year and a half to heal, in relation to leaky gut?
Dr Mark Hyman points out that the gut lining is only one cell layer thick. So it would heal rapidly.
My two cents worth.
And my best wishes and my continued respect ,and appreciation too for all that you do here, CI
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It would make sense that you would have to heal leaky gut prior to getting rid of heavy metals. It seems like a chicken/egg situation, though.
I believe that I do have parasites & I'm working on getting rid of them. There are many kinds of parasites. Not all have the same way of affecting the body. I had tests for heavy metal & leaky gut & they were negative.
I also did alot of anti-candida diets & it didn't help me much. A protozoan isn't going to affect a person in the same way as a tapeworm. It may help to establish a basis for how to go about things but there are probably variations.
How does a person know that the leaky gut is healed?
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FYI - kind of tangential but interesting...
It's really difficult to rule this out. My test was negative but the article says to retest after eating if your test was negative. It's so hard to keep up with everything. Most of this type of treatment is out of pocket. It costs a fortune to do all of these things that most "regular" doctors have never heard of or considered.
I was almost certain that I had mycoplasmas but I had 2 tests for them & they were negative. How do you know when enough is enough with respect to testing?
Today I might not have leaky gut or mycoplasmas but next week I might... The body is always changing. We are always coming into contact with new things.
When you do the diet, take the drugs or supplements - how do we know it's over? So many of the symptoms can be caused by other things.
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quote:When you do the diet, take the drugs or supplements - how do we know it's over? So many of the symptoms can be caused by other things.
That's a really good question Sparkle. In my own case, it was blaringly obvious as so many things settled down when I got off gluten and as my gut lining healed----with mercury-containing amalgams still in my mouth at that time, and no supplements used to heal the gut!
Still, there is testing for leaky gut and an ND told me that these tests are very accurate and sensitive. They give you lactulose and mannitol, two sugars not metabolized by the body. If they are excreted in the proportions to be expected via the urine, then you don't have leaky gut. If they are not excreted, and have seeped through the gut lining into the blood, then they know you have the disorder. And they also can tell how bad it is by how much of the two sugars are lost, compared to what they expect to be excreted (in a healthy condition, something like 98% as I recall, if my memory about this is correct).
Glad you liked the article and yes, in my opinion it is the best I have seen about the subject. The author is a really good guy, I like his articles in general. You can see them on www.healthy.net and elsewhere.
click on English - gives you no where near as much info as in German. There is a translated link posted on the AI thread. If you can find it, you can read forever.
My computer died so I can't access the translated version until I get all my old stuff put on a new computer.
You can also learn a lot about it by reading the very long thread.
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