Topic: Why can I not stop clearing my throat or regurgitating?
richedie
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I have to constantly clear my throat....constantly. Drives my wife nuts and people at work notice as well! I also notice I regurgitate a lot. Had breakfast this morning and within a half hour, I was regurgitating!
Haven't done that in a while, but only thing different today was I had a small decaf coffee with almond milk. Maybe the coffee after 5 days of no coffee caused the regurgitation. Yikes!
Clearing throat is also worse than usual.
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Research lungworm ( Varestrongylus Klapowi). There are other lungworms. www.ratlungwormhawaii.org Symptoms can be anywhere and different never suspecting parasites. Dr. K. talks frequently about it. Check Dr.K. protocols I posted. It is mentioned in some of them.
Am in a hurry!
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Richie,
If you are still taking the Parastroy it could have stirred things up. So glad GiGi brought up the parasite issue because it is very relevant. I had your symptom, plus severe asthma until I got rid of the lung worm parasites.
Gael
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Gael, how did you get rid of the lungworm parasite?
If you do any kind of anti-parasitics, you open up everything else. Look at my post about the Babuschka principle. Parasites holds the toxic metals and many others which then have to be dealt with; when parasites die-off, fungi show up more that need to be treated;then bacteria show up, need to be dealt with; followed by viruses.
K Cocktail described in several protocols I have listed makes sense because we are dealing with one eco-system where metals, parasites, fungi, bacteria and viruses are the players.
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GiGi, since we cannot send you PM's we have to tell you this on the public board.
You may NOT use LLMD's names publicly on Lymenet. Please stop. We are removing names that you post more than anyone else on the board.
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I'm not a doctor but what you describe sounds like acid reflux. You don't have to have a burning sensation or pain. Some other symptoms that point to reflux are clearing throat, hoarse voice, nausea, cough, and bad breath.
You can try Prilosec (aka Omeprazole) for a couple weeks to see if your symptoms go away. This is over the counter but you may still want to check with your doctor before starting any new meds.
Antibiotics are notorious for causing reflux and GI irritation so it wouldn't be surprising if this what is causing your symptoms.
Another alternative would be to try DGL chews. Get these at the health food store. It can coat and help heal your esophagus. Take before eating.
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Gigi,
I got rid of them by using antiparasitic, antifungal and antibacterial herbs and salt/c. When I started using herbs back in 2005, I was using herbs from the Monastery Of Herbs.
I used MANY different herbal remedys of theirs which are too numerous to mention, but included Lyme, bart, babs, mycoplasma, mycobacterium, antifungal, antibacterial and more that I can't remember. Wormwood was included in most.
I took about 4 sets a day which added up to about 16 caps a day. Plus, I was taking extra enzymes and HCL. I was herxing like crazy, and after 6 mos of taking the herbs, 2 days after I started the salt/c all hell broke loose with parasites just pouring out of me.
I was also drinking about 2 quarts of kefir a day. All I know is after this exodus occured, i never had to use my inhaler again. Hope this answers some of your inquiry.
Gael
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- Q: Why can I not stop clearing my throat?
Be sure your diet is free of typical phlegm-producing foods: dairy, corn, soy - and gluten-containing foods (wheat, spelt, kamut, rye, barley). Some have to avoid oats.
If you eat any food and then find you have more phlegm, avoid that food for while and test it out after a few weeks off of it.
Phlegm (and the thicker mucus it tends to build) is a breeding ground for germs.
Other things can lead to phlegm production and a change in your diet or some herbal support may help. Drinking hot water with a squirt of fresh organic lemon will help cut some phlegm.
Allergies to things in your environment can cause phlegm production, too.
Google: "phlegm producing foods" and "what causes phlegm"
A NETI POT will likely help a lot. Just Google that and also search YouTube for instructional video. Go for a video from a professional over one from just any one off the street (while some of those can be good, they are not always the most precise). -
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quote:Originally posted by sammy: I'm not a doctor but what you describe sounds like acid reflux. You don't have to have a burning sensation or pain. Some other symptoms that point to reflux are clearing throat, hoarse voice, nausea, cough, and bad breath.
You can try Prilosec (aka Omeprazole) for a couple weeks to see if your symptoms go away. This is over the counter but you may still want to check with your doctor before starting any new meds.
I have been diagnosed with reflux (prior to Lyme diagnosis). Some people get reflux from too much stomach acid, some from too LITTLE!!! Docs only treat too much.
I do better when I take HCL to increase my stomach acid. What I've read says if you have indigestion within an hour after eating, it's too little acid, if it happens later, it's too much acid.
Interestingly, parasites grow more easily if you have low stomach acid because the acid isn't there to kill them. Here's an interesting article on HCL (yes, they sell it, but I still found it interesting). http://www.cocoonnutrition.org/catalog/page_betainehcl.php
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- In addition to considerations above, to help soothe reflux:
DGL, Slippery Elm, Marshmallow Root (from the plant, not the fluffy confection). And Gum Mastic.
Deglycyrrhizinated Licorice, also known as de-glycyrrhizinated licorice, or commonly referred to by the acronym DGL, is typically used as an herbal supplement in the treatment of gastric and duodenal ulcers. It is made from licorice from which the glycyrrhizin has been removed.
The usual dosage is 760 mg, chewed, 20 minutes before a meal. Studies of DGL in humans and animals against placebos showed that DGL significantly reduced the size of gastric ulcers and hastened healing, with 44% of the subjects obtaining complete healing, as opposed to 6% of the control group.
DGL has also been found to be an effective treatment for duodenal ulcers. In another study a group of 40 patients who had duodenal ulcers for 4�12 years were treated with 3 grams of DGL a day for 8 weeks, or 4.5 grams a day for 12 weeks, with all subjects showing vast improvement, with the higher dosage being the most significant.
An additional study shows that DGL's therapeutic effect is equal to the effect of cimetidine (Tagamet). . . .
. . . There are no known drug interactions with drugs used to treat ulcers. In Europe, South Africa, and Canada, DGL is marketed in a medicinal preparation called Caved-S. In the U.S., DGL is marketed as a herbal supplement.
DGL has also been reported to help treat aphthous ulcers (canker sores).[1]
WHAT IT DOES: Licorice root is sweet in taste and cooling in action. It detoxifies poisons from the blood and liver, and reduces general inflammation and pain.
It moistens and heals the lungs and digestive tract.
Excerpt:
. . . Almost 50 years ago, a scientist by the name of Revers reported that licorice paste reduced abdominal symptoms and caused radiographic evidence of ulcer healing.
However, about 20% of patients developed edema, headache and other symptoms due to overdose, leading to a loss of enthusiasm (Schambelan, 1994).
This led to the development of DGL (deglycyrrhizinated licorice), a form of licorice that does not contain the agents responsible for the side effects such as electrolyte changes.
The de-acidified DGL tablet or capsule form used in Europe and America is therefore devoid of any major side effects, and is effective for healing the intestinal membranes. . . .
- Full chapter at link above.
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Just is just one of several similar products out there. DGL has saved the life of my stomach and can stop reflux within a minute.
If CANDIDA is causing the pain or reflux, in addition to PROBIOTICS, I have found OLE (Olive Leaf Extract) to be fabulous to help heal the gut from fungal issues. -
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- You said: "Had breakfast this morning and within a half hour, I was regurgitating!"
Certain kinds of FATS can also cause this. Your gallbladder may be overwhelmed. Liver congestion can also contribute to this and all kinds of digestive problems. -
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- From "The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook" (Tilloton, et.al.)
While most Westerners think of phlegm as referring only to the excess mucus produced in the lungs and sinuses, from the Oriental view, phlegm can exist in ...
For instance, wheat/ grain, corn, soy frequencies/stored as information in the DNA which are causing a majority of allergies in the autonomics cannot be avoided. Because these frequencies are in everything, from toothpaste to sausage to chicken who eat the grain, supplements soy based, corn, to the wallpaper paste in grandmother's house. Beef? Milk/cows? all grain related.
You have to get rid of all allergies that possibly can be found. Body is under constant stress fighting substances. No chance to heal. Allergie Immun does this.
Take care.
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GiGi,
Since parasites are known to cause allergies, wouldn't getting rid of the parasites be the way to get rid of allergies? I used to have a ton of allergies, but once I got rid of most of the parasites, the allergies disappeared.
Maybe I am not understanding the role the Allergie Immun plays. Are you saying that it could be a helpful player?
Gael
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I had this a lot. It started in 2006 and was worse if I ate fried food.
It was GERD (reflux) for me, which I believe was caused by my Bartonella. It went away when I started taking Nexium in late 2006.
But now that I know I have Bart, I'm hoping to get off the nexium to see if it stays away for good (once I finish Bart treatment)
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It could be a esophageal motility problem fron the lyme that is my my major symptom i had!
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richedie
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quote:Originally posted by glm1111: Richie,
If you are still taking the Parastroy it could have stirred things up. So glad GiGi brought up the parasite issue because it is very relevant. I had your symptom, plus severe asthma until I got rid of the lung worm parasites.
Gael
I will continue taking Parastroy and I hope it is OK to take with my antibiotics.
I am also on Alinia which is for parasites.
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I am pretty sure sixgoofykids took Humaworm when she was taking abx. Maybe she'll come along to verify. Probably spacing them apart would be good. Important to stay on the antiparasitics because they can take a while to work fully.
Gael
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richedie
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I don't understand what that REGU-Immun therapy is and how you get it????
I can tell you I have had this through clearing issue for over 20 years and long before my first hellish Lyme sysmptom.
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Hasn't anyone mentioned Babesia?
I had the same problem. I would lose my voice too and sound hoarse. So I would try to clear it all the time.
Then I tested positive for babesia and started treatment three days ago. I cannot talk now. My voice is hoarse and I feel like there is phlegm in my throat that I need to clear.
I had to get up to gargle with salt water last night so I could sleep. That helps a lot. This morning my dog ran off and I could not call him back. So infuriating. I also have a bit of a dry cough.
It took three years for me to notice the babesia symptoms. For a long time it was just losing my voice and feeling I needed to clear my throat.
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quote:Originally posted by glm1111: I am pretty sure sixgoofykids took Humaworm when she was taking abx. Maybe she'll come along to verify. Probably spacing them apart would be good. Important to stay on the antiparasitics because they can take a while to work fully.
Gael
Yes, I did. I was on massive abx. I took Humaworm when I woke up and didn't eat for 30 min. Then again 30 min before dinner, or 2 hours after dinner.
Since I took my abx with food, I was spacing them apart from the Humaworm.
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Thanks for verifying six.
Richie,
Parastroy suggests taking it with food for best results. I believe it's because it contains HCL and enzymes. It is very strong and for me I find it works best with food especially at the higher doses.
Gael
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With any of the problems mentioned above, I would suggest to get tested for Parasites, specifically Lungworm which may cause besides wheezing, breathing problems also sore throat, swallowing problems, hoarse voice, losing voice or very low voice, pesistent deficiencies/anemia/weightloss, caughing slight or severe, mucus in throat too rubbery to clear, gut problems because they become systemic, including the brain. One of these is enough to suspect Lungworm.
I have to run. My husband is in rehab with bad problems and Lungworm under Dr. K.'s care.
There is a good protocol that works - for anyone that needs it. We are just starting it.
God willing, my husband will be 85 years old and I am praying that he makes it to his birthday, December 11. Age is not on his side, but I am not ready to give him up as yet.
If you wait to clear allergies toward heavy metals, fungi, foods, etc.,the older you are, the more difficult it is to deal with the fallout. Because when the metals finally start clearing, all else remaining (infections-neurotoxins) starts to show up and it takes a lot of energy for the body to deal with. and clear. Easier when younger.
Best to all - take care.
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Too much to take in...I guess I will just forget it and move on. Sound slike it could be anything and everything. Oh well.
Still don't know what REGU-Immun therapy is and why I need to know about it. My doctor gave me a kit where I send in a blood sample and they tell me what food allergies I have, etc. Is that basically what this is?
By the way, I don't need to order kefir grains from kefir lady, Our local health food store carries kefir starter kit. I add it to coconut milk.
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quote:Originally posted by richedie: By the way, I don't need to order kefir grains from kefir lady, Our local health food store carries kefir starter kit. I add it to coconut milk.
It's not the same at all. It tastes good, but it has only a small percentage of the probiotics in real kefir grains.
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GiGi.
Sending prayers that your husband has a successful healing and recovery
Gael
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richedie - The long-running thread (over 3000 posts) here on Lymenet called Allergie-Immune is what Regu-Immun is. It is a treatment from Germany. It is designed to clear the body of dis-regulations and allergies..... everything from foods to chemicals to metals, etc. It's in the realm of energetic medicine. I've been reading it and have decided to try it myself. You send them a saliva sample, and they send you liquid drops that you take for 2 weeks. Then you send another saliva sample, and they send you the next round of drops. You keep repeating this process until you are "cleared". I've decided it's worth a try. I sent my first saliva sample this week.
Best to you, Tammy
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Sounds like acid reflux and maybe a esophageal ulcer... maybe a hiatal hernia.... but I'm not a dr.
Maybe you should ask a dr. about this, and then maybe get an endoscope.
Not everything is lyme/co related. You said you've had this for years?
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I would like to add when I had these symptoms I ate coconut oil and I had what looked like oatmeal grains coming out...
It could be like a lot of lymies---a little bit of everything..
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quote:Originally posted by sixgoofykids:
quote:Originally posted by richedie: By the way, I don't need to order kefir grains from kefir lady, Our local health food store carries kefir starter kit. I add it to coconut milk.
It's not the same at all. It tastes good, but it has only a small percentage of the probiotics in real kefir grains.
I will get some then......I emailed her but never heard back.
I have had the cough since college....almost 20 years. But I was bit by a tick at 7 years old. It was imbedded in my head.
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The stuff you're using is better than yogurt because it's about 7 strains, but the grains are better, estimated over 50 strains. I used the stuff you do before I got the grains and they are a bit easier to use.
I don't know what the cough is .....
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