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I had a temp crown put on a tooth that had no pain before the procedure. Now I am having what feels like nerve pain, probably the maxillary nerve, on most of my upper teeth. It goes from the tooth that had the crown to a tooth on the other side that had a root canal which never completely resolved that pain(years ago).
I have also had issues with jaw clenching and actually sucking my mouth/tongue inward while i sleep. I know, weird, it started when I was in the worker's comp system a couple years ago, stress...
So am also having lower face pain(whole mouth/jaw) which would be from another nerve so not sure why 2 different nerves are involved.
I know if I contact my dentist, he'll want a root canal done. I already have one which didn't resolve the pain entirely, and I've read how bad they can be for lyme patients.
I need some guidance please. Can I calm these nerves down without doing a root canal? I'm actually afraid to go back in for the permanent crown or any more work, I don't want the pain to increase.
I actually slept with pain patches on my face last night, at least it helped the face pain. Sorry it's so long.
thanks, diana
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It could be that your temp crown is too high. Don't be afraid of going back to your dentist.
The pain from a 'too' high temp crown will make a lot of pain going deep into the tooth sockets. There are ligaments that hold the teeth into place, and when chewing on a too high new temp crown, those ligaments become very tramatized.
It will effect that whole area around the temp.
When you say there was no pain before the treatment and now there is, this is a perfect sign that it's a wrong size/too high temp crown.
I've been in dentistry for over 23 yrs.... have seen this many many times.
Have them ck your bite with marking tape to see how you're hitting this crown.
The pain will go away once the occlusal is corrected.
IF left untreated (bite adjusted) you can be giving it more trama than it likes and then yes, a root canal would be needed as the nerve inside might not calm down.
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thanks for your reply. It didn't hurt before the procedure, but did hurt alot after, even before the temp crown was put on. He did alot of drilling.
So if I stop chewing on that side, or do a liquid diet for a few days will the pain stop? If it doesn't what would that mean?
I will call Mon to have the bite checked, should I also ask about infection? Sorry I'm asking so many questions, my dentist is a multi-tasker and it's hard to pin him down for questions as he zips in and out. His assistant placed the temp crown and bite check.
I'd really like to avoid this becoming a chronic problem.
Thanks again
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By saying that it hurt during drilling or before the temp crown was put on, it means that he didn't have you numb all the way. Which tells me he didn't ask or care to ask you if you were feeling anything, not nice of him.
You can stop chewing on that side, and that will let the periodonal ligaments start to heal, but that's not going to solve the problem.
If the assistant make the temp and placed it, AND ck'd the bite, then YES, get back to him to ck the bite! My guess is it's wayyy too high and you're hitting it first when you bite down.
There will no infection in the tooth itself. Not with this problem. There's nothing to be infected. The tooth wasn't what we call, "Opened up". It was just drilling around the outside of each side of the tooth.
And if your nerves in the tooth were to be tramatized by the crown prep, it would take longer for them to 'hurt'.
This is a bite issue. This happens when dr's don't want to or have the time, to ck what their assistants have done.
Your tooth/socket/ligaments will calm down, once you're not hitting it so hard.
When you call, tell them that you feel the temp crown is way to high and you're hitting it first. Your tooth in the socket is very sore and you need to have it adjusted. No charge for this.
Best of luck. And if he is a dentist that is too busy and runs in and out of the rooms... maybe find one that is more caring? (if possible)
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Maybe go to a biological dentist for a second opinion. I've heard quite a bit, not only about root canals, but also crowns stopping the flow of chi on the meridian points (Chinese acupuncture points), then it leading into further health conditions. Also, there is a test to check and make sure you are compatible with the new materials used, rather than highly reactive. A good biological dentist will look into all of this. Why not look into all possibilities? Just some thoughts to consider....
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just an update, I went back to my dentist yesterday and I did have a high temp crown, they grinded(is that a word?) down so it doesn't hit anymore, and say it will take a couple days to calm down.
Also talked to the ins co. and said they will cover certain percentages of normal and customary charges for out of network dentists. So will switch to a bio dentist in the future. Hopefully will get more personalized attention, and I need to get my amalgams removed eventually.
Thanks for your help, it was most appreciated!!
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okay, this is ridiculous. The pressure is off of the tooth they worked on. But now the other teeth forward of it all hurt if I chew with those teeth, and they haven't had any work done to them. I guess I'm putting pressure on teeth that aren't used to it.
So I'm back to soup and smoothies. I'd call the dentist again, but what can they do with teeth hurting(about 9 of them)that they didn't even work on?
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When I had a veneer put on, I had slight pain above that tooth. If I put my finger on my face where the root of that tooth is, it would hurt.
It seems to me that the pressure they put on my tooth when holding the veneer on while the adhesive dried irritated that nerve. The pain went away over a few weeks' time.
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I've had pain caused by the numbing/needle and the nerves going crazy for several days after.
Especially now that the other tooth is ticked off, it very well could be nerve reloated.
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Entire maxillary nerve still irritated. I wonder if has anything to do with the laser treatment of the tooth, I'd never had that done before. He did something around the gumline with the laser.
Due to have the permanent crown on next Tues. Should I still go ahead with it?
I've found the solution to weight-loss: teeth pain.
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It should calm down in a few days. The laser was used on the tissue around the margin of the tooth so he could get a good margin for the crown to fit around it.
You bite has been off with the crown high, and now it's 'different' again.
Give it a few days for those ligaments to calm themselves.
BUT... when that new crown in placed, please make sure they have your bite correct. It's better if you're not numb for that, but it is sensitive if youre not numb. Before you leave that appt... have them sit you up right in the chair for a few minutes so you can bite down (gently) in a normal position.
This new crown is made to fit your bite... the temp crown wasn't. So the new one is a better choice. Just hope he took your impression correctly so it does fit perfect.
Should be ok, lets think positive.
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"So am also having lower face pain(whole mouth/jaw) which would be from another nerve so not sure why 2 different nerves are involved."
The maxillary and mandibular nerves are both branches of the trigeminal nerve, so, even if your upper and lower teeth are involved, the pain is still generated from only one nerve.
I developed trigeminal neuralgia as a result of Lyme. It makes the entire right side of my face, upper and lower teeth, jaw, behind my nose and eyes, and top of my head hurt tremendously.
My LLMD, Dr. C in MO, warned my daughter and I to never have root canals done, EVER. He said it can cause irreversible damage in Lyme patients.
He gave me the name of a book to read about the association of Lyme and root canals. If I can find it, I'll pass it along to you.
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I have root canals and I have lyme (for decades) and I am just fine.
Everyone different.
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How will I know if the bite is right? If I bite down for a couple minutes should I have no increased pain?
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Dentist will have you bite down on some marking tape. That tape will show where you are hitting (biting). It should show equal marks on each tooth. You don't want it to mark on just the crown tooth.
When you sit up, you will bite normal, and feel where you hit (touch) first. It should be equal. But if you feel that you touch any cusp of that crowned tooth first, let him know.
His marking tape will show where you're hitting, so he should see it.
The crown is made to fit perfect from the impression that was taken. Upper/lower teeth were in that impression so that the bite will fit together.
Lets have faith the dr. took a great impression and the lab did a great job.
If you go home and feel you touch that tooth first with biting, do not wait to call him. Get it adjusted as it will start hurting again and throw the whole bite off.
Should be ok though.. ok?
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ok, thanks. They usually only check the crown tooth with the marking tape. should I ask them to check more than that?
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