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triathletelymie
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Herxing...good/bad...new symptoms or resurrection/worsening of current ones?

I would love to hear thoughts on this...

Although I don't think that I have really ever herxed (and, unfortunately, I am not getting any better either! [Frown] ), I have a few questions about it...

*Should everyone herx? If not, shouldn't there be some sort of improvement? It just seems that a constant worsening of symptoms or status quo for months, is not "herxing" but rather disease progression.

*Is herxing supposed to be worsening of current symptoms or the resurrection of old ones�or could it also be the emergence of new ones?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

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Not everyone herxes.. but you could be in a "constant herx".. I didn't feel any better for at least a year... basically two.

YES, you can have the emergence of new symptoms... symptoms which are on the Lyme list but that you haven't experienced.

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I always wondered does starting treatment wake up the sleeping giant which can cause new symptoms to appear?

I am getting new symptoms here and there too.

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triathletelymie
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I never really had any joint pain/issues...

Now...the last week or so...I have been getting some minor knee and wrist pain...joy!

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triathletelymie
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CDC+ 23/39/41/45/58/66/93
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quote:
Originally posted by penguingirl:
[QB] I always wondered does starting treatment wake up the sleeping giant which can cause new symptoms to appear?

I am getting new symptoms here and there too.

I think it's just that as the Lyme is being cleaned out, you hit spirochetes that are responsible for different symptoms....?? or am I dreaming??

triathlete.. You might want to make sure you don't have yeast/candida because it can cause joint pain too.

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I think it's really important not to blame everything on herxing. It could be that the drug combo you are using isn't working and your disease is, in fact, progressing.

I honestly wouldn't stay on meds that were making me worse.

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Treating Lyme is like stirring up a hornets' nest. Borrelia are under attack and they move around. I myself had definite herxes, severe worsening of symptoms, indicative of a die-off of bugs.

Some people herx so severely they end up in the hospital. It would make sense that some patients are at the other end of the spectrum - they just have a slight but steady worsening of their symptoms.

It could be that the borrelia have sequesterd into biofilm colonies and are not really dying off. Try adding Wobenzym-N to dissolve biofilm. But start this slowly and carefully. Some have ended up very sick from herxes precipitated by Wobenzym.

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Sick since at least age 6, now 67. Decades of misdiagnosis. Numerous arthritic, neuro, psych, vision, cardiac symptoms. Been treating for 7 years, incl 8 mos on IV. Bart was missed so now treating that.

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