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wtl
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A recent conversation with a doctor here who mentioned the term prompted thsi question. No, he is not a llmd, if that's what you wonder.

When I looked into the web link he gave me, it seems Lyme patients would naturally suffer with some metabolic issues.

http://www.kennedykrieger.org/kki_diag.jsp?pid=1093

I haven't heard much the discussion on this topic. Is there any connections? And how one should address the issue?

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up...does this mean no metabolic issues around Lyme patients?
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Q: "does this mean no metabolic issues around Lyme patients?"


That article says nothing about lyme. Just a look at some of the various ways metabolism can be challenged.

I don't know what you read there that would lead the reader to think patients have no metabolic problems from borrelia infection. I must have missed that.

However, lyme can affect ANY part of metabolism. So, it's quite possible that some of those things listed do affect lyme patients.

And, for anyone with a metabolic problem to begin with would likely suffer more with lyme.

There are TONS of metabolic issues with lyme. Just TONS. The endocrine system is tossed off the tracks. Hypothalamus, Pituitary, Adrenal, thyroid . . .

The stomach, the liver all are part of metabolism and the stomach and liver take a real hit.

All this, from adrenal support, to stomach and liver support, have to handled very carefully. The body can't take too much pushing and that has to be done just right with support methods. That is why a LLMD &/or LL ND is so important.
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[ 12-15-2010, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]

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This book is specific to lyme and other chronic stealth infections. The author discusses the endocrine connection and effects of STRESS on a person with such infections. You can read customer reviews and look inside the book at this link to its page at Amazon.

http://tinyurl.com/6xse7l

The Potbelly Syndrome: How Common Germs Cause Obesity, Diabetes, And Heart Disease (Paperback) - 2005

by Russell Farris and Per Marin, MD, PhD

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Remember that lyme really messes up the HPA axis (Hypothalamus/pituitary/adrenal network). The pituitary has much to do with weight/growth. Mess up any part of the endocrine system and other parts suffer, too.

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

See page 4 where Dr. Burrascano describes a bit about the considerations of the dysfunction with the HYPOTHALAMIC-PITUITARY AXIS

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Another metabolic concern for some people with lyme:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/91842?

PORPHYRIA
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Now, in this kind of search, you may find articles that discuss the metabolism of the borrelia spirochete, itself, and others leading you to the area of human metabolic changes - or stressors - from lyme.

I'm not sure of the way to best word it to screen out the ones that look at the spirochete so you may just have to sort through yourself - or try different combinations of cross search terms. Putting two word terms in quotes will help narrow your search.

By cross searching, you will find much more detail through Google for both sets as each set bring up some links the other does not:

borrelia, metabolism

lyme, metabolism

"metabolic effects" lyme

"metabolic effects" borrelia
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Another aspect of metabolic change/stress regards MITOCHONDRIA damage from lyme. That is addressed here:
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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/77325

Topic: To everyone with CARDIAC symptoms please read !
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Keebler - thank you. I know you are a dictionary.

I did not imply that the article is Lyme specific. The ENT specialist we saw did not even have much knowledge of Lyme disease. Just that this article is the one he pointed out which prompted me thinking about the connection.

Oh yeah, my question "does this mean no metabolic issues around Lyme patients?" simply refers to the fact no one is responding to my question after it was falling to the second page. I felt like I was asking a question that's so out of line that even Lyme patients think I was crazy. [Smile]

Thanks again.

So you think there are much we can do to address the metabolic issues by working with a llmd or a llnd, as opposed to the suggestion that there is no treatment for much of any metabolic disorders listed on the website linked in my original post?

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