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Honestly. you probably dont have it. yes I know alot of people on here talk about candida. and yes it is a common issue and a possible issue but. given the fact that you dont have any vaginal yeast, oral thrush, or any stomach symptoms such as bloating or digestion issue. then I'd hafta say you probably dont have a yeast issue. some people just dont. just be on the look out for symptoms in case it does happen in the future.
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lyme symptoms and yeast symptoms overlap so it's difficult to know if you have yeast.
lab tests for yeast aren't very accurate
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I always thought symptoms of chocaholic's was
a sure sign of having candida!
Or did I miss that memo?
If I were you I would see a podiatrist....get
perhaps some antifungal foot spray or a script
for diflucan....but...that's just how I delt
with my athletes foot issues....
make sure you always wash your hands whenever
you are down around your tootsies so as not to
spread all those nasties from your toeses to your
nosees or get athletes foot of the ear...which
is what one ENT specialist informed me I had
rather than "swimmers ear" for five years
straight!
Washcloths and towels may pass these fungi from
one area of your body to the rest you clean and
or later dry off after showering.
hope this helps after the little chuckle I put
in there for TOO TOO!
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So if one does not have thrush, vaginal yeast problems, or positive yeast test results, and one has a clean tongue and does not have any "die off" symptoms from anti-candida treatment despite severe gastrointestinal problems (thought to be from Lyme/Bartonella), is it safe to say they are free of candida?
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My first sign of Candida/yeast is my ears itch after eating something "carbie" and it doesn't have to be a sweet. a piece of bread, a white potato.
Carb cravings are a sure sign.
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I was just going to ask this same question! Taking probiotics but have had a yeast infection and have been abnormally tired, so I'm thinking maybe yeast.
So I have had a couple dreams where I am surrounded by chocolate cake and other deserts and start chowing down and loving it. LOL Isn't that just crazy? I cut out soda and sweets and now I dream about them! Funny, huh?
Anyway, I'm gonna look into the candida diet. Hope I can stick with it, I really hate diets!!
Oh, can anyone recommend a really good probiotic that isn't crazy expensive??
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I tested positive for IgM and IgA (as well as IgG) antibodies in my blood (I have systemic yeast) after 4 yrs of ABX
My stool culture had no yeast, but I had killed all but 2 of my friendly flora's even with probiotics.
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I don't crave sugar or carbs, and the only thing eating sugar does to me is cause mood swings if I eat a lot of sugar all at one time - but I don't even like the taste of foods that are too sweet.
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Which is better for treating yeast? Nystatin or Difulcan?
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Simple - if you are on long term antibiotics, you have systemic yeast. It's unavoidable, diet or no. Abx (think chemo) kill all your bacteria (even the good ones) allowing the candida to flourish.
The spit test is the easiest to clearly show you.
Nystatin helps with oral thrush. Diflucan is best for systemic. Plus tons of probiotics, oil of oregano, capryllic acid, grapefruit seed extract..... tons of choices.
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quote:Originally posted by lymeinhell: Simple - if you are on long term antibiotics, you have systemic yeast. It's unavoidable, diet or no. Abx (think chemo) kill all your bacteria (even the good ones) allowing the candida to flourish.
The spit test is the easiest to clearly show you.
- AGREE on the first paragraph... but the spit test only measures oral thrush. You can have a bad case of yeast and a clear spit test.
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After reading this thread, I guess I should stop avoiding the yeast issue and take the Diflucan that I somehow keep "forgetting." I have chronic yeast infections (vaginal), tremendous painful bloating before my period, sugar cravings like Crazy....AND yes, I have been on abx for several years now, on and off.
It seems so overwhelming a task to combat yeast that I procrastinate...
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Razzle is correct. Some take things too far out of context, it takes severe yeast invasion of the body before some even have symptoms, but it never hurts to keep it in tact.
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Does that mean the use of probiotics to counter yeast is useless? Or does it mean ones taking not enough dose of probiotic vs. The dose of abx taken?
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Most of us are likely to have systemic yeast and the more important question is whether it is being 'managed' so that it doesn't get out of hand.
Some may not realise that you can get candida/other yeasts in the airways [as I have at present!] and this can cause very uncomfortable breathing problems...the air hunger often mentioned here may not all be about babesia!
I blame my current situation on my having allowed myself to drink alcohol for a while because of a cnacer scare and then a close bereavement, though it could also be a reaction to some chelation cycles with DMSA.
Since Monday I have been strict with the candida diet and have taken 3 drops of oil of oregano in coconut milk 3 times daily: the result is MUCH more comfortable breathing [and fewer episodes of atrial fibrillation + ectopic beats] and it's only Thursday!. I have also restarted NSI's Candida Yeast Management.
BTW,I have been taking high quality probiotics of various brands for over 11 years and they have never been enough to keep yeast under control for me.
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I have had to take a break in treatment because of my GI issues. Extreme bloating (over 4 in.), gurgling, pain, gas, diarrehea. I don't have any vaginal yeast issues, or thrush.
My Dr. wants me to treat with an increase in probiotics to balance the flora in the gut.
I brought up yeast.... and Nystatin as well as Diflucan. He didn't want to do either. He didn't want to take the chance of putting more stress on the liver with the diflucan, my liver enzymes are normal right now, but have been high before. Kidneys are showing minor damage.
He basically dismissed the issue of yeast, didn't think it was an issue.
However, he wanted to stop the abx for a bit, so that I don't develop c-diff. Wanted to get the balance of good bacteria to bad in better relation.
I need a better understanding... of this all.
I have grape fruit seed extract that I am going to be taking to try to naturally kill off the yeast, since he wont help. (I hate the headaches from it!!!!!)
And upping my probiotics.
He wants to take a month break of abx.
Comments??
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Kramberry... it is NOT useless!! If you don't take enough probiotics, you will be fighting yeast for the rest of your life. Take the best and follow the diet.
ukcarry... You are so correct!!! ___ "Most of us are likely to have systemic yeast and the more important question is whether it is being 'managed' so that it doesn't get out of hand."___ I agree with you on the many symptoms yeast can cause!!!
Laura_W .. That "LLMD" has got to get a grip. Yeast is not an issue?? HA! And he doesn't even know that Nystatin has NO EFFECT on the liver??
Take the best probiotics you can find and take tons of them. MINIMUM of 100 billion CFU's per day.. Triple that if you can afford it.
And follow the diet.
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Lymetoo... I will do the best that I can.. and i agree about the Dr. I have always known that he isnt very literate
Reacting to the Grape fruit seed extract with headaches and brain fog does prove yeast issues, right?
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Oh, and how long should I wait after taking GSE before taking other supplements or probiotics? Is it the general rule of 2 hours from anything else?
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Another question: is it helpful to switch up your anti-yeast supplements (for example, caprylic acid for a while, then grapefruit seed extract for a while), or does that not matter?
Thanks for this thread!
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Good question viva, I'd like to know that answer as well.
And, is more better?
Should I be taking more than just the GSE? Like Oregeno?
And if so, should I take them separate of each other.... one in the am, one in the pm?
What type of schedule would you guys recommend?
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I started ABX 6 1/2 weeks ago, LLMD gave me tetra and diflucan. Should I be getting a liver test done?
How can you afford 100 billion CFU's a day of probiotics? That would be $270.00 a month for the one I am taking and I don't have that kind of money.
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This is a fantastic one by Sedona Labs - IFlora It's temperature stable so you don't need to refrigerate it. That said, I typically bought by the case and keep it in thr fridge.'
6 pills a day = 10 days for 1 bottle. If you shop right, I bottle coast $25 or less. So that's $75/month
This link has a good description, but you can find it cheaper on Amazon. They have many formulas, but this is the professional grade.
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quote:Originally posted by Laura_W: I brought up yeast.... and Nystatin as well as Diflucan. He didn't want to do either. He didn't want to take the chance of putting more stress on the liver with the diflucan, my liver enzymes are normal right now, but have been high before. Kidneys are showing minor damage.
Ok..I agree with the Diflucan part. But not with the Nystatin. I take two 500,000 unit pills (1M total) 2x / day (2M total). Nystatin is VERY gentle and only stays in the GI track. There is zero impact on your liver. Why not try this?
I'm on Nystatin as described above. I also take GSE Capsules, Oil of O capsules, Olive LEaf Extract capsules, and about 160B probiotics / day. (2 VSL, 2 Theralac, 4 PB8, 1 Florastor)
I have had zero issues to date, and my diet, particularly on the weekends, is not very strict. No bloating. No / little thrush. etc. Form time to time I do get itchy toes (a la athletes foot) but I apply powder and it is gone. I've always had issues with athlete's foot.
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