but is there any concrete proof behind that statement?
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As it is nearly impossible to locate spirrochetes they can't observe them but we do know cancer thrives on sugar - another pathogen. They give patients radioactive glucose and then measure where it is concentrated and that is where the cancer cells are growing.
I wonder if this would work to locate "pockets" of lyme and then just inject those areas with abx. Just a thought.
A long time ago one of my dogs had a really bad infection from a puncture wound. When abx failed the vet gave him a shot directly into the infected site and it cleared the infection.
It might be kind of hard though to inject my brain.
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good question since many, including me, blindly believe this.
however if one is on abx than you should avoid sugar to help keep yeast away. i do believe sugar feeds yeast.
also it has been shown that sugar is bad for your immune system. if you body is fighting an infection i think you want you immune system firing.
ive read where drinking a coke can lower your immune system for 3 hours.
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From what I've read, most organisms, including bacteria, use glucose for energy...
So sugar is like throwing gas on a fire. Of course, the yeast potential doesn't help anything either...
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all cells in your body use glucose for energy.
I saw the cancer study before, it was very interesting. Cancer cells grow very quickly, so I wonder if it could just be that the higher growth rate requires more glucose, because you are making so many extra cells.
But agree that sugar isn't good on abx because of yeast.
I think you have to be carefull about blanket statements like. "sugar is bad for infections and lowers the immune system". They use sugar and honey to help heal wound infections.
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Go for natural sugars
Fruits Honey Maple Syrup (grade B) Molasses
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I do know that if I eat foods containing sugar cane or high fructose corn syrup my pain levels go through the roof.
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I'm living proof of it
I had three pieces of chocolate and woke up the next day with violent vertigo for the next three months
I threw gas on the fire alright
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There is so much conjecture and speculation in the Lyme world.From what I understand, the body converts most food to sugars for energy use, so I don't understand why the intake of sugars would be especially bad.
Granted, sugar spikes are bad for health in general, as is consumption of processed sugars. But I've not seen any evidence that processed sugars affect Lyme patients more than anyone else.
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Processed sugars effect everyone whether they know it or not.
But it has a tendency to really impact chronic illnesses. I'm assuming because the body is already in a vulnerable state. (trying to detox, fight infections, heal)
The same goes for preservatives, chemicals, etc.
The reason you see so many Lymies obsessively avoid these things is because most have come to the realization that in order to heal they need to decrease the toxin burden.
And altering ones diet is a great beginning.
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Sugar depresses your immune response and brings on inflammation.
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I can tell a major difference if I go a day eating sweets. I'm okay eating a little sugar here and there as a treat but if I kept cookies around the house and ate them several time a day I would feel the difference the next day.
Thats the reason I keep nut butters and almonds around the house as they stop sugar cravings I also keep stevia handy also.
To me pure sugar should be ranked up there with alcohol as something to limit in your diet.
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- Lyme patients are more prone to developing diabetes. Simple sugars must be avoided for that and for many other reasons.
Complex carbohydrates from the plant kingdom offer you many nutrients and even some sweetness options for you to enjoy - along with good proteins and good fats - these real foods will fuel us - not simple, processed fake food products that create an imbalance of chemistry.
REAL FOOD is what will nourish our cells - from as close to its natural state as possible.
Simple, processed sugar (a product of chemistry) plays havoc with the adrenal system - and all hormones. The stress from adrenal dysfunction can cause serious damage. Some of that is discussed here:
The Potbelly Syndrome: How Common Germs Cause Obesity, Diabetes, And Heart Disease (Paperback) - 2005
by Russell Farris and Per Marin, MD, PhD -
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There was a study in the 70's that determined that sugar depresses the immune system. As far s I know there have been no studies since then. A depressed immune system would allow lyme and other infections to poliferate.
I've heard from parents and school teachers that there is a marked increase in flu and colds right after halloween. This may indicate that sugar does depress the immune system. Terry I'm not a doctor
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Wouldn't sugar also feed all those beneficial bacterial colonies we are trying to maintain??? They need to eat too!
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- Good foods feed the good bacteria. Good food feeds us. Junk does not. Processed sugar and corn syrup are not food. They are junk. -
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Keebler
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- Many infections can cause diabetes, lyme included, as damage is caused to the pancreas and to the endocrine system.
The thing with sugar is not just that processed sugar can send glucose to the moon or even to the gutter in a resounding let down afterward (and the up and down can damage the pancreas and insulin balance) but processed sugar can also wreak havoc with the entire endocrine system, crashing us in many ways.
This book is specific to lyme and other chronic stealth infections, such as Cpn (chlamydia pneumonia).
The author discusses the endocrine connection and effects of endocrine STRESS (which involves the pancreas and adrenal organs) on a person with such infections - contributing to diabetes, heart disease and other health problems.
Because all systems that are supposed to help us manage stress are just clobbered by simple, processed sugar (and corn syrup), in the presence of infection, addition of such processed sugars can make matters so much worse.
You can read customer reviews and look inside the book at this link to its page at Amazon. ---------------
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Ok, anything you eat turns to glucose in your body. Candy, meat, fruit, grass if you want.
To transform a green bean to glucose your body has to work hard to break down the cellulose, fiber, etc to extract the part that has nutritional value. Your body actually uses more energy to digest that green bean than the green bean gives out.
Sugars, natural or refined, are easily broken down by the body; little effort huge return.
Your body's natural insulin unlocks cells membranes, (all kinds of cells: skin, brain, blood), and makes it possible for the circulating (in your blood stream) glucose to be absorbed by the cells.
If you eat very concentrated sweets your body is being asked to quickly produce, or release, a large amount of insulin to help process the high glucose load in your blood stream.
Your body can do this to some degree but what it does is the quickest thing: stores it in fat cells.
While this is happening the excess glucose is available (perfect food) for whatever might be living in your system. It circulates through all your organs, eg. Kidneys-that is why diabetics are highly prone to urinary tract infections.
The ideal diet combines all food groups in their proper proportions, spread out through the day to meet the demands of our body. Someone who never moves from the couch does not need the same number of calories as say someone who spend most of their day off the couch.
The quality and pureness of food is important so the body does not have to process the myriad of artificial colors, flavors and additives.
Refined foods, such as "white rice", allow the body to break the food down very quickly as the tough outer layers of the rice have been removed.
An orange, eaten in segments will not raise your blood sugar as high as the same orange juiced and consumed. BTW orange juice is one of the fastest absorbed and turned to glucose substances there is.
I assure you homemade organic maple syrup will raise your blood sugar good and high and has a very high glycemic index.
Everyone needs to severely limit the amount of quickly absorbed foods and beverages and move more toward complex foods.
If you want to keep your circulating blood glucose as low as possible it is a good idea to �feed your metabolism�, that is, be active or exercise, then eat when you become hungry. Eat small and more frequent meals throughout the day.
Hope this helps, of course this is a very simplified version of the topic, but is part of how we start diabetic education for folks.
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