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"The seed of suffering in you may be strong, but don't wait until you have no more suffering before allowing yourself to be happy." � Thich Nhat Hanh Posts: 64 | From North Carolina | Registered: Jan 2011
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i wanted to know that too. im a german guy... and i have a lot of neuro/brain symptoms.
Posts: 159 | From Germany | Registered: Nov 2010
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It is frequently said by IDSA types that Americans get arthritis, Euros get neuro.
But it is not this clearcut. Americans get neuro frequently.
It is also said that Euros have more borrelia species and those cause different symptoms, depending on which species you have. That might be so, but Bb is found in Europe too, and European species have been found in ticks in the U.S.
Not a clearcut distinction, in other words, because most people are not tested for all the species that might be present. It takes a research lab to do this.
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I've lived in NC my whole life but believe I caught it in Sweden (spent every summer there since I was born). It just makes things more complicated because NC doctors do not test for the Euro species.
-------------------- Contracted Lyme 1999. Diagnosed January 2011.
"The seed of suffering in you may be strong, but don't wait until you have no more suffering before allowing yourself to be happy." � Thich Nhat Hanh Posts: 64 | From North Carolina | Registered: Jan 2011
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I thought the western blot here in the US was based on a laboratory version of the European strain, that's why it conveniently gets mostly negative test results. (Please do not quote me on this, I could be absolutely wrong.) I've got to remember where I read this that I was given this impression. Maybe it was in Cure unknown?? Gosh, I can't remember. I remember reading somewhere about the flaws of the current testing here... intended flaws to produce mostly negative test results. If I can find where I got this info, I will report back. (Again, please don't quote me in case I am mistaken.)
Posts: 2238 | From East Coast | Registered: Jul 2010
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Yes - the main borrelia species here is borrelia burgdorferi.
In Europe, there is more borrelia afzelii and garinii. The first causes more skin symptoms and the second more neuro symptoms.
I recently watched some youtube presentations done by Peter Travis in which he explains the European presentations and shows graphics of the afzelii skin conditions.
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In our family we have European Lyme I believe. All bites have been in Europe. Four of us have tested positive by Igenex.
Posts: 174 | From UK | Registered: Oct 2009
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Who knows, testing is so unreliable at present ?
We tested negative for Bartonella via Igenex and BCA labs, Germany, yet show Bartonella like organisms on Fry slides and herx on Bartonella treatments.I have tested negative for US Babesia strains, yet my LLMD suspects I may have Babesia (more likely divergens or EU-1 strains)
We have tested positively for Chlamydia pneumoniae.
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