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are you taking this with doctor support? i am asking because they should have advised you on how much and how to take it.
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I used to take it when my chiropractor diagnosed me with KPU. She had me take 2 caps twice a day, with food (suggested I take it as I was finishing the meal, so the food was already in my tummy).
Any time of day seemed to be ok, but to get the most benefit for it helping make you feel better during the day, she had me take it at breakfast and lunch.
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If you choose to take individual supplements (like Dr. K recommended before he developed Core), see the article link below. Toward the end it has dosages and when to take, etc.
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I see on the Core bottle information it says " taking too much iron is bad for you" .....but iron is not listed as an ingredient.
Why would the label say this if there is no iron in it?
I have Hemochromatosis and need to avoid taking extra iron.
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Wow, that's strange. I have low iron so have to supplement it. I didn't increase my supplementation when I took the KPU zinc and ended up anemic. Now I take more iron and less zinc.
Maybe it's because of the zinc/iron interaction? Still strange that it's on the bottle.
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This is the reply I got back from the manufacturer of Core to my question about the iron warning............
The warning was a misprint and not intended to be on our label. We approved the plates before realizing this was on there. I assure you there is NO iron in this product.
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This is the reply I got back from the manufacturer of Core to my question about the iron warning............
The warning was a misprint and not intended to be on our label. We approved the plates before realizing this was on there. I assure you there is NO iron in this product.
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It is super important to watch all mineral levels when on KPU (aka HPU, which is the correct name) Copper especially. Per my experience, it (copper) changes up and down within few days, not weeks.
Per Dr. K.: "It is critically important to monitor mineral levels during this treatment. Copper levels should be assessed using a red cell mineral test. Copper replacement is often necessary at a dose of 2-4mg per day due to the high zinc dosage. This is evaluated and introduced when necessary after the treatment has begun, often between months four and six. Zinc, manganese, and vitamin B6 are copper antagonists. Thus, monitoring levels of copper and supplementing where needed is an important part of the treatment protocol. Zinc and copper should not be taken at the same time of day.
Copper deficiency can lead to hemorrhoids, varicose veins, fatigue, edema, hair loss, anorexia, skin problems, osteoporosis, cardiovascular disease, aneurisms, and many other undesired conditions. Current nutritional teachings are misinformed on the topic of copper toxicity. The immune system uses copper and iron to fight infections associated with Lyme disease. As a result, oxidized copper is displaced in the connective tissue and may appear as though the patient is copper toxic by some testing methods when in fact copper supplementation may be appropriate. High dose Vitamin C has the effect of changing copper to a form that can be reused by the body.�2
The protocol is challenging to get through because once the mineral deficiencies are corrected, the body starts to dump heavy metals. It is critical to have a heavy metal detoxification protocol underway before this happens. For this reason and others, Dr. Klinghardt cautions that the HPU protocol should only be undertaken under the guidance of a qualified physician."
Take care.
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GiGi - where on earth do we find qualified physicians who are knowledgeable enough to guide us through this? There is only one Dr. K. and he is 3,000 miles away.
My son's LLMD is willing to guide us as best she can... she is studying HPU. She believes this is my son's barrier to getting well (as do I).
Our biggest stumbling block right now. [B]New York State does not allow the Red Blood Cell Mineral test. [B] NYS does not allow testing on anything but WHOLE BLOOD and URINE. That means no stool, no plasma, no red blood cells, no hair and probably more. It's ridiculous. I wish I knew who to contact to get around this red tape.
I have contacted the NYS Dept. of Health. They don't have a clue. They say the reason that testing is not allowed is because it is not reliable. Bull&*$%. The reason it is not allowed is because they are trying to cover something up - and they don't care who they hurt.
>>>Is there another way to check the copper levels????
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Momlyme, I had to use muscle testing. I had no one else to test me. Sometimes we have to do what we have to do. The muscle testing showed that after a couple months I did need to start supplementing copper, and I did.
I did end up with low iron. I have always been anemic if I don't supplement iron, but did not increase my iron when I started taking the zinc. The iron I was taking was no longer enough, but I didn't realize it until my ferritin got low (which it may have been anyway, but it was never tested before).
So there is a puzzle to work out, and a doctor would be ideal, but many of us just don't have that. I truly wish I did ..... I've tried to find one to work with .....
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momlyme, sorry for your predicament. Vote the people out of office! Yes, you can test copper needs with a tensor. One day it is needed, on other days - no.
Since I don't have enough funds nor a doctor available every other day, I learned to do energetic testing myself. I use a tensor. It doesn't take much to learn. Most of what I learned, I spent days, weeks, months, years listening to Klinghardt recordings, lectures, videos, etc. I have a stack of papers that would make a super bondfire.
I use my tensor with a little bottle of copper solution in my hand and test. If tensor gives me a positive polarity, I test and count for the number of drops and add it to my cocktail or whatever I am preparing - mostly for my husband, because he is a severe KPU. I also test myself for copper on occasion and there are times when I take some with whatever other supplements, very few, I still take. I don't use a pendulum because it takes me too long to test through a hundred items. I flip through all of them in my test box with the tensor in a few minutes, collect what is positive and add it to my cocktail, or depending on the type to take with food, etc.
Even if you had five doctors within an hour of your neighborhood, it is way too costly and too difficult to get appointments with a practitioner. The supplements needed change almost daily and this way I avoid taking the wrong meds and increased possibility of becoming allergic to it ---- happens all the time! ---- and take what the body is really in need of and the quantity. Some stay the same, some change daily.
Dr. K. taught me years ago - you are your own best doctor and told me to listen, learn and do it. Sometimes he and other ARTlers have tested my cocktail concoction and they are not shy saying that it tests great.
When I started to post here on Lymenet 11 years ago, not a soul talked about heavy metals much less about KPU or biofilm. I endured the jokes about the toothless metal and chlorella lady and was banned periodically. Some of my posts are still being moved to General or totally eliminated, even though they are about prime causes that contribute to Lyme or even are a major cause of Lyme.
We live in a very strange world.
By the way, I have never taken an RBC test nor KPU. Doctor�s Data Hairtest $46. tell a lot.
A number of people here on LN learned to test themselves for their needs and to get a sense of direction what the body needs right now. With a little bit of practice, and patience, you can do it.
Hope you get to attend the seminar in NY � take a tape recorder and sit near a loudspeaker! I have shoeboxes full of tapes. That way you can refresh your memory many times long afterward.
Take care.
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Thank you GiGi and Six. I appreciate you. I will stop freaking about the RBC test.
GiGi - I know you posted where to get a tensor before. Could you post that again, please.
My son is too weak for muscle testing and I don't have a third party when it is just me and him. I will have to learn the tensor.
I did the hair test on him. Found a loophole in the NY laws and got it done. He is highly mercury toxic. Scary. I guess I am a little wound up and scared.
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Did the mercury show high in the hairtest? If it did, that is a good sign. It means that since it shows up in the hair, it is on its way out (from blood into the hair). Most metal toxic people hardly show any toxic metal in the hairtest, because -for a variety of reasons- they are unable to detox them. Often because of allergic dysregulations (AI) = malabsorption and KPU.
The essential minerals on the lower portion of that test need to be all on the right hand side of the test - in the upper percentile. If they are all on the left side, lower percentile, that needs urgent attention. I am sure you are aware of that and are giving him lots of absorbable minerals so he can continue detoxing. He will start feeling better and better -
Take care.
P.S. When you test him, knowing that you yourself are also metal toxic, you have to clear yourself of that first by putting a metal tester in your pocket. Same with other items you test. When the people at the seminar start talking about this, make sure you ask these questions!!!!! The doctor has to be healthier than the patient.
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Thank you so much for that link.
Yes the mercury is at a 2.8 which is in the 97th percentile of the toxicity. He is also high in cadmium, arsenic, lead, titanium, aluminum... but not like the mercury. Where does one pick up arsenic? The test says water and shampoos.
I almost wish I didn't get the test done. I knew he had HPU from the white marks on his nails.
We are taking all kinds of individual supplements for HPU... eating lots of green veggies and good food... taking liquid micro-minerals... a tablet micro-mineral... 4 different oils... B vitamins... and still most of the essential minerals on that test are deficient.
Zinc and iron are at the mid mark. Vanadium, Iodine, Phosphorus, Selenium, and Sulfur are on the right side... and ALL the rest are tanked to the left!
I wish NY allowed us to test his blood levels because I want to know how deficient he really is! Not just how much is coming out in his hair.
He is so sick. I just want him to FEEL better.
The ones I worry about most are the potassium and sodium because this (from what I understand) mean his adrenals are stressed to the max.
I am working on getting myself healthy... getting the last of the mercury out of my mouth today. I have a long road myself... I hope I will be healthy enough to use the tensor!
>>What do you mean a metal tester in my pocket??
I am not doing the ART part of the seminar... just the 3 hours Saturday night. I hope he gets into some of this then. There is so much to learn. I feel like I am in a crash course... the most important one of my life.
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