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1 fluorescent fixture which drives me batty after 10 minutes. This is the only place I feel poorly. All weekend at home and about felt great. It's def. the lighting and/or computer monitor.
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Florescent lights are not good for you and make me feel ill.
I'd say get some full spectrum light bulbs with an ordinary lamp and don't use the florescent one it you can.
Also this may work well. I have one and love it. It's a SAD desk lamp, model SADelite, and you can keep it on while you work. It creates a wonderful bright light:
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Is your computer 'wireless'? If so, it might not just be the monitor...
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Just like Abxnomore, I suggest full spectrum light bulbs in an ordinary lamp. I use these in a windowless area of my home and now love that spot.
EMFs can have quite a negative impact on many with CLD. Look for other threads on LN.
Also look at MCS issues from toxins emitted by new carpeting, synthetic fabrics, plastics, and industrial chemicals. "Sick building syndrome" is a good search term.
From another angle, consider color therapy. Maybe you'll need to paint one wall yourself in a color more suitable to your healing path.
Trees have been shown to accelerate healing in studies of hospitalized patients. Patients with windows looking upon trees healed faster and relapsed least. Patients with a window toward green park setting did second best. Patients with a window onto a brick alley did almost as poorly as those with no window.
The patients without windows healed slower in hospital after surgery, and relapse more often.
But there's hope for ALL! Patients who had photos or artwork of trees to look upon, even with no windows, healed at rates similar to those with viewing live trees from their windows.
So, be sure to have pictures, artwork, posters, SOMETHING depicting healthy trees IN your office with you.
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Thanks for the studies and advice. Hope I won't have this office much longer. I have some nature photography framed that I have taken but it is behind me. Paint color was of my choice and is a warm tan/brown.
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You can buy full spectrum fluorescent tubes that fit a regular fluorscent fixture. I buy mine cheap at a place near my home that specializes in lighting.
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- Good idea about changing the kind of light bulbs. Still, if you have vestibular problems that might not be enough. Especially, if any degree of seizure activity is involved, it may be best to ditch the fluorescents altogether.
Also be sure you are getting enough magnesium and good Fish Oil.
I've had to totally avoid all fluorescents and "low-energy" bulbs.
ANY fluorescent light may be too irritating if you have any kind of inner ear stress going on. Also, they all have some sort of sound to them and, for anyone with tinnitus or hyperacusis, this can be torture.
If you don't notice any of that, fine. If you do, you'd need lightbulbs and lamps without ballasts in them.
Regular style incandescent light bulbs (but still best are full spectrum bulbs, just not fluorescent) in regular table lamps or floor lamps may be more soothing.
"Naked" light bulbs can be very irritating to those with any kind of inner ear stuff going on (which is common with lyme). Shades help.
If you have any lamps that hummmm, get rid of them. Those that have dimmer switches that slide up and down (or rotate) often do hum and they can be especially irritating for those with vestibular or seizure conditions.
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The Irlen Method uses color overlays and filters to help people with autism, reading problems, light sensitivity, migraine headaches, dyslexia and head . . . .
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Personally, I cringe at the use of the term "Irlen syndrome" and this is the first I've heard of it - seems a bit like a marketing scheme. Really, the symptoms they describe are common to those with neurological infections and heavy metal toxicity -- or with various vestibular disorders and nutrient deficiencies.
Still, there are some good suggestions in the pages here: ---------
Short answer: Having Irlen syndrome basically means light causes you some problems with reading, attention, headaches, fatigue, or other interesting things like depth perception.
Lots of people don't realize their symptoms are related to light. Or they think their symptoms are normal. For example, some people say they "don't like to read" when it's really hard for them to read because of their symptoms (ex. can't concentrate, get sleepy, words move, etc.) . . . .
The glare of light from computer screens can drive you crazy. It might give you a headache or eyestrain or make the print do strange things.
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- You can approach your HR director for help - declare a visual disability (sensitivity) and request accommodation for disability.
The kind of lighting changes that you require are very similar to those who have MS - so the HR director should be no stranger to this. This has been done often for many.
You might be able to get a station change to be next to a window -- and also out of eyesight and ear shot of fluorescents. You may have to go to a different floor, etc. but there should be some where in the building that will work.
You might also be able to get some sort of "box" for your computer screen - or overlay as in previous post - to offset glare (but be sure it still would get circulation and not overheat).
You might also be able to have some time to go lie down and rest (unpaid time, but still it could be built into your schedule).
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- Your ergonomics may need to be assessed. If your posture is not good, you may be getting decreased circulation to your brain (and eyes).
You may need a better chair, different angle of keyboard, etc.
Explore certain YOGA exercises that can be done at your desk. Many links pop up with a web search for: "Yoga at your desk"
FRESH AIR. OXYGEN. Also consider the air. If the air is not fresh that will affect your vision.
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. . . Sarah is a woman in mid-life with two grown children. After a disabling bout with Lyme disease, she felt that her feet �refused to follow orders.�
Her gait was disturbed and simple tasks became hazardous. One evening she broke her ankle as she walked across her bedroom! Now her determination to stay mobile was burdened by more pain and weakness.
At this point, Sarah�s massage therapist sent her to me for Functional Integration lessons. She made immediate and rapid progress; her feet found their way; and her gait became stable and fluid.
�In the aftermath of Lyme disease, Feldenkrais� lessons contributed to my entire sense of well-being. The movements improved my fine motor skills. Also, because I was walking all wrong, it tired me out.
I knew I was walking incorrectly, but I didn�t know how to correct the problem�now that I�m walking better, I have more stamina,� she explains. . . .
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YouTube can be a good place to see a few instructional videos to get an idea about certain techniques. It's best to find ones that are from certified instructors. But, YouTube is just for a hint - it's always best to consult a professional in person for individualized instruction, when at all possible.
It would be great for your boss to bring in a trainer to set up classes for everyone, really. -
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It's nice to see what it's like on YouTube and then purchase for your daily use with your DVD player. YouTube denies him of his rightful due for all his research and work.
The DVD is very affordable - about the cost of one supplement - it's just about $20. and you get a book with it, too. The DVD is also much easier on your eyes - from your TV at a distance. The computer screen is much harder on eyes.
However, if the budget is just not able to manage this, my guess is that he posted this YouTube clips so that everyone could have have the basic details.
This 1 hour and 15 minute DVD plus 65 page illustrated study guide and eye chart was the surprise hit at the recent New York Yoga Expo and evidently with good reason.
Meir Schneider, PhD, LMT is well known for his pioneering work with self healing in general eyesight improvement in particular. -
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All fluorescents are bad for me, even full spectrum fluorescents.
Other options besides incandescents are LED and halogen. Note that starting in January 2012 it will be illegal to buy the incandescents.
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- Halogen - Thanks, Michael. Those are the ones that HUMMMM and also flicker.
Yeah, all those fluorescents (even the new compact ones to look like light bulbs) just tip over my world and make me very sick, even triggering seizures for me.
Thanks for the reminder to buy up all the regular light bulbs I can. I did see that GE closed the last light bulb factory a few months ago. Even NBC's Brian Williams remarked, at the end of that news report, that he hated the way the light looks so unreal from the newer low-energy bulbs and hoped to stash away a couple of "old time" bulbs for himself.
As Amberini reminds us, the risk of mercury from a broken low energy bulb is a serious concern. Not to be taken lightly - I think special masks should be worn, too, but who ever knows when a bulb will be dropped?
Don't know why we need mercury in something so fragile as a light bulb. -
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I use an Ott light for task lighting. I have a portable one if I take a class where I know they only have crappy lights. Ott light is broad spectrum lighting, easy on the eyes and colors remain true.
I know they make several models of desk lamps. JoAnn's often has them on sale. Also available on sites like Amaz and Overstk.
Now I don't feel weird for buying 10 4-packs of lightbulbs. I may go get more.
We really need more mercury contamination, like we need more ticks. OYE, what WERE they thinking??? I would bang my head into the wall except I don't want a headache.
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Just as FYI, Ott light is fluorescent. I know some "regular" people who like it, but they are fluorescent, they do flicker 60 times per second just like all the other fluorescents, and they are just as bad for me.
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Didn't know that, still love my light for close work and don't use it every day. That particular light doesn't bother my eyes at all as do the CF or regular Flor. lighting.
Guess this poster needs to tape up cardboard to the lights around his desk ( and make all the co-workers upset) and keep a supply of old fashioned light bulbs to go with a desk lamp, sort of like Banker's light.
I wonder if wearing sunglasses or those glasses that darken automatically might help?
I am guessing the workplace isn't cooperative in finding a working solution?
When I have had migraines, I would wear my sunglasses even in stores and for especially bad flares, I wear a hat to deflect the overhead lighting and the intense visual affect from high shelving, AKA, Grocery store syndrome, Hain talks about on his website.
The way things are heading, there is no way we can really avoid Florescent lighting even in our own homes.
It will be interesting to see if an uptick in Migraine activity hits the news over the next few years or if mercury levels start to rise. Australia could see this first as they have made the switch to the newer bulbs.
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- Yes, we can avoid fluorescents by asking that lights be changed and avoiding what hurst us - as best we can. We have a right not to be clobbered. Just like with second hand smoke.
Hats and glasses do not cancel out the fluorescents. I've tried them all. I just don't shop in the big box stores.
We most certainly can avoid fluorescents in our homes - if we choose. But it takes planning. And, sadly, that is harder and harder.
But, really, until night time I don't even turn on the lamps. Then, I need far less light than I used to think. It's best to use the dark hours to rest. -
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Keebler - can I ask a silly question here...are there any issues with the rounded regular light bulbs that are used in bedside lamps, etc.? We do have florescent in our basement which we are going to change shortly to just bare light bulbs with pull strings. I just want to make sure these new light bulbs I will be buying are not flourescent and do not contain mercury...
I am confused about the energy saving bulbs...how are they different from your standard light bulb? What should I look for when I purchase a standard light bulb?
Thanks, tickbattler
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- Energy saving bulbs are fluorescent. Still, each is a bit different so read the product detail.
Bare light bulbs are really hard on anyone's eyes. Why no shade or method of light dispersion? They really are helpful.
I would try to buy up regular incandescent light bulbs while we still can. -
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One thing to note: Most compact fluorescent light bulbs are easily noticed as different from the incandescent bulbs, due to the spiral shape you see. However, they are now making compact fluorescents where the spiral shape is covered up by a roundish shape that looks very similar to an incandescent bulb. It's good to be careful when buying, the label and the price should give it away.
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