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Topic: Q for those of you familiar with Banderol & Samento:

bcb1200
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 25745

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So..wife has had some mild symptoms in th past year since our second child was born. Mainly mild fatigue, mild elbow, wrist, finger joint pain / weakness. ALl mild, but there.

She tested IND on a few lyme-specific bands on the IGENEX western blot. This confirms likely exposure.

She started Banderol and Samento a few weeks ago and us up to 15 drops of each. Tolerating it well, overall.

This past week she noticed her elbows, wrists, and fingers ache a bit more and the muscles in those areas area also twitching a bit more too.

Is this a herx? I suspect it is. I hope this is a good thing.

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Bite date ?
2/10 symptoms began
5/10 dx'd, after 3 months numerous test and doctors

IgM Igenex +/CDC +
+ 23/25, 30, 31, 34, 41, 83/93

Currently on:

Currently at around 95% +/- most days.

Posts: 3134 | From Massachusetts | Registered: May 2010 | IP: Logged |

one4islands
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 28187

posted

I wish I had some info to offer.

I started both Banderol and Samento three weeks ago and am only up to 4 drops (which I started this morning).

I work two jobs and have to financially. I was afraid if I didn't work up slowly to that amount I'd pay for it and may have to call in sick.

Yesterday I was very sore and achy all over with some upper abdominal muscle pain.

I did, however, move and lift about 50 heavy boxes the day before at work so I don't know if that is the cause.

If it is the boxes the pain is definitely lyme related it would never feel like that if not.

I am achy all over this morning, including my neck.

I don't know if it's the combo of those drops working or the usual cycle of those symptoms I get that come and go every so many weeks.

I have no idea if I've experienced a herx yet or not.

I don't believe so.

Let's hope it is for your wife and the herbs are working.

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tlime
Member
Member # 29508

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I started both last summer, moved up a drop each day to 20??? lyme brain!!
did have mod to severe herx, kept moving, working etc.

my thought, good sign! detox, parsley or burbur in water,every 10 min till symptoms ease. this is from my lyme md.

hang on, it is a bumpy ride! watch funny movies! rest!

Posts: 40 | From CT | Registered: Dec 2010 | IP: Logged |

tlime
Member
Member # 29508

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townsendletter.com july 2010 issue shows the slide of in vitro study on those products. impressive!

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onbam
Unregistered

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I relapsed hard on these when I was almost at 100% at the end of last summer, and a Swiss researcher, Martin Sievers, said that Samento actually promoted Bb growth. There's some on this here:

http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=47

Search for "samento" in the text and then translate the paragraphs discussing it with Babelfish or something like that.

I'm not touching them again until more research is done.

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tick battler
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 21113

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Our practitioner uses Nutramedix Samento, Cumanda and Burbur as her core protocol. She also gives agrisept-L (GSE) to control candida and to eradicate babesia. She adds Enula sometimes for mycolplasma and ehrlichia.

It has worked for us (we think so far). ESD testing is showing the infections are gone, and we had them all: bart, babs, ehrlichia and lyme.

I found the dull aching to be a herx.

tickbattler

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Energyman
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Member # 29178

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onbam

yeah but dr.sapi has a study where samento and banderol are stronger than doxy...

Posts: 159 | From Germany | Registered: Nov 2010 | IP: Logged |

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