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for two years i have had an on and off cramp/nagging pain under left rib cage.i have deceided it is my upper left colon because after an enema it is ok for 2days.i have not found much to relieve it.everything works for a little while and then it is back.i feel it every day now.i keep thinking i will hammer it with antibiotics but i have issues with yeast even with probiotics.i have wondered if it was leaky gut,from having yeast for so long before i treated it.it feels like something bacteria has drilled or is embedded through the intestine and will not go away.i can lessen it with parasitic/yeast treatment but never goes away unless enema is done.if i do not do anything the pain gets so bad with diarrhea constipation,nausea,palps,foggy head.if it were yeast i think diflucan,sporonix and nystatin would of knocked it out.does anyone experience this pain and had success treating it.i am about to try antibiotics or flagyl again to see if it calms down.i am really afraid that some kind of bacteria is resistant in that area.
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The spleen is under assault in a Babesiosis infection.
* Babesiosis in otherwise healthy hosts produces an acute infectious disease that resembles malaria. Mortality due to babesiosis is uncommon in patients with normal splenic function.
* Patients who are asplenic have a more fulminant and prolonged clinical course and may have overwhelming infection and a fatal outcome.
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I've had this same pain for about a year. Have you had an abdominal ultrasound or CT scan? Not to scare you, but in addition to having "dysmotility" (slow digestion basically), I have cysts on many organs, some large enough to push other organs around and cause pain.
Definitely protect yourself from constipation, but maybe try other types of prevention instead of repeated enemas. You don't want hernia surgery. My GI changed my probiotic and that plus acidopholus has helped tremendously.
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This is me to a T right now.
It's miserable - slow digestion (you cn feel the food slowly crawling through you), constipation, cysts all over stomach, liver, kidneys, etc
For me it's Bartonella plain and simple.
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i have been on diflucan forever with weeks of ketoconazole,sporonix and nystatin.i know that some people have yeast issues bad which i did,mainly from a feeding tube that shoved it down through my gut and my first treatments did do alot for my gi except this nagging left sided pain.i am starting to wonder if i have leaky gut in that area because when i take probioitic the pain gets worse in that area and i feel not well throughout body.i hope i do not have damage to that part of the intestine.when i do an enema because i feel so ill the second bowel movement always produces some sort of clump of mucous.then the following bowel are normal.the spleen and cyst thing is very interesting,for two yrs my ct scan showed a cyst or possible second spleen?it is not there now since treatment with antibiotics.i have liver lesion that is still there and now having problems with cysts in pelvic area. and my appendix showed past evidence of inflammation and disease.i have had colonoscopy always normal.but my stool has had high cell count. i wonder if babs,bart or lyme can burrow into wall of intestine and i just cannot rid of it. i do fine with yogurt but probiotics can get a little hairy for me.
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check for parasites....
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i have daily constant pain but it's my lower left side, across under the navel, and to the right.
sometimes constipation, sometimes diahhrea. it's draining and seems like i feel weaker every day.
the pain is worse from 2-4 in the early morning. i sleep for a couple of hours then walk the floor then go back to bed and maybe sleep till 8.
i just wish i could get rid of the pain. it's bad enough having muscles that ache all the time but then add this.
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angielle and canefan-i wish i could talk to youboth. my hands are so bad to type now. i have been dealing with this 3 yrs or more...rifampin made it go away twice but it cam e back wose
buhner tea kept me good for a yr-now back...ultrasound showed lumps...then catscae with contrast showed but not enough to really dx anything...just watch it...i feel like i am sleeping on golf balls...sometims hard tennis balls from this
it is possible that artemisinin is helping it...
i'm at 845-591-1055 if any one wants to talk more about it...
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really sounds like a spleen issue. Have you treated for babesia ever I also have a splenule( a second small spleen attatchment) i would let your doc know and see he/she can feel any enlargement. I would also suggest an u/s ct scan and maybe a round of babs tx.
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angiell, I did not mean to imply enemas caused hernias--severe constipation caused mine. But relying too much on enemas or other laxatives can screw up your system more, according to my doctor (I am no way medically trained), because your body can become dependent on it.
I am not ruling out that my GI problems and cysts could be caused by lyme or co-infections. I am just beginning that journey. I just wanted to mention cysts because we wouldn't have known about mine without the scans.
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sbh, I've learned that worrying about "screwing up your system more" by taking enemas or laxatives is just backwards thinking.
How can things get worse than THIS?
We're constipated with tons of fecal and toxins recycling through the body. It needs to come out at ALL COSTS. (I take a product called Dr Schulze IF #1) It works. take as many as needed to get bowels moving.
I think Bartonella is behind ALL OF THIS. It disables peristalsis. First it begins with twitching in the stomach for months!... Then eventually the twitching muscles become disabled and non-functioning.
I'm willing to bet all of you with this issue first had muscle twitching in GUT. And now you have knots everywhere.
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Fair point, canefan. I don't recall exactly how my gut problems began, as it's been so many years that I've had "IBS," but I suspect you're right about that too.
I will be sure to ask about bartonella at my next appointment.
Edited to add (Angiell)--forgot to mention that what I have relied on for constipation that won't let up is miralax. Insurance covered the prescription version.
I have no idea if that's an option for you, ask your doc, but it's much easier to tolerate than enemas or pill laxatives.
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I believe the left rib cage pain, for me, was spleen-related. Two, three-month rounds of Mepron/Zith cleared it up. So it took a while, but it is gone now and has been for a year at least.
I have the Bart too though so I cannot be sure. Of anything really. If there is one thing I am sure of iti is that.
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