some german LLMD's think that coinfections aren't a big deal for the germans. I think this is totally wrong. Are there any numbers or something like that which co's are more commom in europe?
According to Burrascano 66% of the ticks in the US have babesia and i was asking myself what it's like in europe.
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Hi Energyman, I got my Lyme in Germany and don't have classic symptoms for either babs or bart, but I have some bart symptoms. Taking cipro seemed to bring them out.
Maybe your MD could try cipro as a challenge since it's hard to get a positive test.
But, I'm on Buhner now and my LLMDs theory is that getting rid of Lyme will allow my immune system to get rid of the bart.
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some LLMDs in Germany are nuts.I am from europe an d I have pcr verified bartonella.In fact, the co infections are The problem- not borreliosis, which in comparison is easy to treat. Gale
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Marz,
That's a dangerous theory lol Bart isn't one to mess around with and assume your immune system will eventually get itt
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There aren't any reliable tests for bartonella or babesia. I did a PCR in the US but it was negative. But they don't test for all specific strains...
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Canefan, my memory might have twisted what my LLMD had said.
But when I saw her in April, the latest Public Health Alert had come out with an article about Buhner that she was very enthused about.
So I started Buhner sometime in May.
Looking at this article now, I think this is what she was referring to:
"if all of your symptoms go away and your energy is great and your life is working great, it doesn't really matter whether you have the disease or not." --a quote from Buhner
I think he's talking about Borrelia, not co's. But isn't his core protocol for the co's too?
So far, Buhner hasn't done it for me.
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