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I see people throwing around the word "binders" here like everyone should know what it means.
By reading lots of posts I've deduced binders *probably* mean the following:
1) Substances that absorb toxins and heavy metals, primarily from the bile, by sitting in the digestive tract and not getting absorbed, sort of like a "mop" for the digestive tract.
2) Some contain fiber to keep things moving and some can cause constipation so taking fiber is necessary.
3) Binders are different than chelators or things that cause metals to dislodge from tissues. Binders are used WITH these other things to mop up the metals that they release.
4) Some of the best and most widely used binders include clay, apple pectin, charcoal, etc. Some of the best non-binder metal detox treatments (e.g. that go deep in tissues and mobilize metals) are DMSA, DMPS, KPU protocol, AI protocol, etc.
5) Binders are important because they prevent toxins coming down through bile from getting reabsorbed throughout the intestinal tract and causing other symptoms.
.......... OK, so there's my rough definition after deducing these things from reading lots of posts. But for the benefit of others who haven't read much, and for the benefit of myself to refine my definition, can people please throw in additional details based on their understanding of what "binders" are?
Thanks!
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Come on, really? Everyone talks about binders on this forum like they are the holy grail of treatment, but no one wants to help us all understand what they are? :-)
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Maybe there should be a glossary thread at the very top like bite prevention.
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deerose - great idea! I mean, I read DOZENS of threads before I even figured out what a "binder" is. I'm really curious to get feedback on my proposed definitions above....
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None of your questions are answered with a simple yes or no - because nothing in medicine seems to be either black or white. The tone of your questions somehow hits me in the gut. Do a little of your own legwork! I have posted masses of protocols by Dr. K. who is the originator of the binders and a ton of the other stuff we all had to slowly learn and integrate.
In order for me to avoid having to write a page on each of your questions, I would suggest you go through the attached and then to about page 90 plus and learn what it is all about. There is no clearcut answer to any of your questions.
I was told during my first visit to Dr. K. that unless the patients takes an active part in research, getting rid of a chronic disease is not possible.
There is no free lunch and getting well is hard work for everyone posting on this board.
I used to tell my kids if you learn to demand nicely, I may hear you. They learned so say please.
Take care.
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Gigi, all I do with my free time is research - nothing else. Can I get any more active than that? I didn't know Dr K was the originator of binders, and I didn't know where to look for that information. Thanks for trying to help.
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From your post, I would say that you have a good handle on what binders are and what they do.
Two important binders you didn't mention are chlorella and cholestyramine.
Our ND has my daughter on 20-30 chlorella twice a day, half an hour before meals. As she described to me, the chlorella moves into the intestines and then when you eat it, bile is stimulated, which is full of toxins. The chlorella absorbs the toxins and carries them out of the body. KingChlorella by Allergy Research Group (iherbs.com) is a good brand.
Cholestyramine is a prescription (used for lowering cholesterol) and is the binder of choice for anyone dealing with mold biotoxins as well as Lyme biotoxins.
My N.D. describes detox as a 3 part process: 1. Keep the detox pathways (the organs) open and draining (Burbur, Pekana detox kit, K-drain and others) 2. Pull out the toxins (enemas, saunas, colonics, castor oil packs, epsom salt baths, lymphatic massage, etc.) 3. Bind the toxins and pull them out of the body
Also, glutathione is helpful for converting fat soluble toxins to water soluble, which are more easily released (via urine, sweat, etc.) If taken orally, it should be liposomal.
This is a simplification. I am not a doctor, but I hope this is helpful.
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