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I'm on Prilosec, Amoxicillin, and Biaxin for H.Pylori bacteria. I tested positive thru stool or saliva test cant remember which. No ulcer is suspected though.
Why am I feeling way worse!!?? I can't get to sleep, I feel like my stomach is making MORE acid and i have an AWFUL taste in my mouth.
Amanda
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the awful taste in your mouth is a side effect of the biaxin.
You are taking a lot of abx. It might be that it is killing off lyme, and causing a herx. I would say it is just the abx themselves, but an inability to fall asleep is a lyme symptom... but I could be wrong...
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k i thought it was the prilosec. its like i'm hungry, but i eat and there is still burning. almost like symptoms of acid reflux? i don't know. whatever it is, i can't get to sleep because of it.
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HEre is an article about acid reflux and h pylori infections by Dr Mark Hyman which mentions drug side effects, diet, food allergies as cause, enzymes as part of the solution, more. Don't mind this article being primarily about acid reflux, it mentions the h pylori infection as one of the causes even in absence of ulcer, how to take care of it and how the drugs affect us, good information:
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good information. but I'm doing practically everything on that list already. I never had symptoms of acid reflux and I only got heartburn when eating fruit on an empty stomach, which i hear is normal.
now ...these meds are making me feel like i have all those symptoms. feeling like throwing up, dull stabbing pain that waxes and wanes, a stomach that feels like it's being eaten by acid. hungry but when I eat it's like digesting a rock.
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Fyrecracker It must be side effects. Don't know why in detail. But what I do know is that according to Earl Mindell in "The Vitamin Bible of the 21st Century", to have too little stomach acid is to develop the exact same symptoms as having too much.
Could it be making your stomach acidity too low? I don't know.
Have you tried digestive enzymes? Marshmallow root tea?
Marshmallow contains mucillage, a gel-like substance in the plant which is anti-inflammatory to the linings of organs (digestion, lungs, bladder et al). It also renderse the linings more soft and flexible. This aids secretion of gastric juices et al as the lining becomes more healthy. It doesn't exactly stimulate them as an herb, but via its softening and anti-inflammatory mechanism would still be of support.
There is a Rainbow LIght enzyme product containing marshmallow root in it, not sure of the name but you could google it.
I have seen either marshmallow alone, or enzymes, or hte combination really help people with hyperacidity,nausea and all you are talking about.
Unless, of course, there is a parasitic or other type of infection present, which needs to be addressed separately.
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Do you have any Benzos? For some reason Xanax helped my nausea when I was on this same combo.
Also, Reed's Extra Ginger works miracles. I get it at my Grocery store or specialty/health stores.
It has sugar - but the ingredients are all natural and the real ginger is great on the tummy.
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Amen! Love that ginger beer, it's fantastic!! This helped me when I was on winding mountain roads and had four more hours of it to look forward to...and was getting car-sick. Oy! Sips, it was gone! And such blissful therapy, poor us all.
Ginger candy, ie crystalized ginger, can help too.
Or make ginger tea, with or without peppermint (yummy combo) and a bit of licorice root.
Try DGL tablets, they can aid heartburn and acid reflux and nausea et al. DGL is deglycerinated licorice so it is less likely to raise any blood pressure.
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I just spoke with my doctor (by the way thank you for all these tips and reminders, I work at a health food store so i know a bit about these brands and supplements)....
My doc said that this is to be expected. H.Pylori, even though in my case has yet to cause an ulcer, is still a nasty bug.
I addressed my trichinella issues in the last 2 weeks with medication, and a month prior with herbal products.
I was going to try to stay on Parastroy AND the meds for H. Pylori, but this is challenging. I haven't felt this way before.
My doc said it's a pretty nasty treatment and under no other circumstance would she condone the use of Pepto Bismol, but in this case...she suggests it if the discomfort gets to be too much.
i DO use digestive enzymes. My body is not breaking down carbs or fats very well at all.
gwb
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There are some natural treatments for this, Zinc-Carnosine. It's commonly used in Japan for H-Pylori and I believe it has to be prescribed by a doctor in Japan, but not here.
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Thank you guys. I heard about Zinc Carnosine but I'm already 4 days into a 14 day treatment. Feel like I should stick it out. But If for some reason I ever have to re-treat for H. Pylori I would definitely be drawn to the zinc.
I just took some Blue Heron which has binders and Marshmallow and Slippery Elm. Seems to be helping already.
gwb
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I read Dr. Whitaker says you can add it to the traditional conventional treatment, which is what he recommends. It could only help, I would think.
It is high in mucillage, a gel-like substance which soothes the digestive lining. It also acts as a slide, so things may not get as easily absorbed.
Therefore, it can at least theoretically interfere with the absorption of mainstream medications, writes David Hoffmann at the healthy.net site. (www.healthy.net see the herbal medicine center at the left column).
Take it a few hours apart from medications and you should be fine.
The tea may be even more effective than capsules (and cheaper too) because it's really high in mucillage. It will be almost like drinking part-set gelatin, with zero flavor, just tastes clear. You could add mint for flavor if you want.
ANother thing that comes to mind right away is aloe.
And chamomile. It has anti-inflammatory bisabolol (a herbal constituent) and is mildly anti-microbial/anti-biotic. Just mildly. So it is very supportive.
YOu may also like to know that bananas and blueberries can help with h pylori, I was told while studying herbalism. Such torture as therapy eh?? Sorry for you.
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Mastic gum is hit or miss.
Pepto is actually used with some treatment protocols.
Ranitidine bismuth citrate is also a treatment option. IMO HP gets resistant in Lymies because of previous abx use without proton pump inhibitors in place.
7-Day Rescue Therapy With Ranitidine Bismuth Citrate After Helicobacter pylori Treatment Failure http://tinyurl.com/4cgsscg
Eradication of H. pylori infection: the challenge is on if standard therapy fails http://tinyurl.com/4z82a28
You may have to mix and match to eradicate the bug.
I have HP too but have not begun a new eradication protocol.
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yea I had no idea H. Pylori was this rough. Especially since I have no ulcer.
But, I picked up some DGL gum, some Traditional Medicine Heartburn Tea (with marshmallow and mint), ginger chews, and as a treat, I picked up a Reed's Ginger beer which I'll sip on over the course of a few days because of the sugar content.
Also taking Blue Heron in between meals and meds. It's a detoxifier/binder with soothing properties.
So far, the DGL and ginger chews have helped quite a bit.
Good to know about that Marshmallow root, will make sure I don't take any with my meds.
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