All I can say is when I took Ivermectin, I had what looked like rice in my stool as well. I assumed they could be pieces of broken tape worm. Would be interested to hear if there is a connection with bile duct flushing.
How do you do a bile duct flush anyway?
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The floating rice grains are often tapeworm segments. The seaweed is probably liver or intestinal flukes. They are often described as tomato skins or wet leaves. The gonads of the flukes do look just like seaweed.
Google search liver fluke photos, intestinal fluke photos, and tapeworm segments photos.
And get ready for the show. (I don't recommend popcorn.)
There are lots of helpful people over there, too. You can upload your photo & people may be able to identify it. I asked the Humaworm guy & he helped me.
Humaworm has their own forum there.
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It's really good to have feedback here from people who have also had this experience and know something about it.
That said, it is absolutely very important to let people here tip you off to what *might* be the case, but then let your doctor do the actual diagnosing.
If we lay people diagnose, we are setting up the road for possible trouble.
We could be wrong and miss an important diagnosis if we do this. It's a mistake.
Check with your doctor and show him/her the photos you very wisely took.
Bravo! Smart to have done that.
Now please check with your doctor just to be sure your daughter is medically safe and on the right track.
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I don't know how many have done colon cleanses prior to procedures like colonoscopies, but you would find alot of strange things that you would not normally expect to see when your doing them.
It's amazing how much is actually stored in the colon until you start doing a complete cleanse.
I think sometimes we may jump to some conclusions about what we are seeing.
To me the important thing is that I'm clearing things out that are going to make me feel better.
Here's the page with the liver fluke testes. (DD probably won't like that word, either!)
Chiquita - We're here because our doctors can't and won't diagnose and treat us. If they could, we would be happily living our lives. We are taking our health into our own hands and asking others what their experiences have been.
Patients bring jars of their expelled parasites to doctors, only to be dismissed as delusional hypochondriacs.
We wouldn't be here if it was as simple as bringing a photo to a doctor and getting correct diagnosis and treatment.
I don't know anyone on here who would ever be unsafe with the health of a child. Or not take a sick child to a doctor. Hens is not asking us to diagnose her daughter. She's asking for our experiences. That's exactly what she wrote in her post. She will make the right decisions for her family.
We are not morons. We're just treated like we are!
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Hens - I can't say for sure if these are parasites, but in my experience, the early flukes and tapeworm segments were the most vulnerable. It didn't take anything heavy-duty to start getting them out.
I really hate responding to "what is in my toilet?" threads!
"I really hate responding to "what is in my toilet?" threads!"
Yet you responded 4 times, and with helpful information to contribute. I think you enjoy covering your eyes with your hands, but peeking through the hole in your fingers!
I cannot help it myself. I want to see TRUTH!
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I agree with you Boxermom. The doctors really don't know how to deal with parasites. They are kind of in denial about it, too. They don't want to admit it's outside of their experience - so, they make you feel like you are a paranoid delusional or something.
I don't think parasite infection is that unreasonable.
17hens - I would have probably done a parasite cleanse prior to the liver/gallbladder flush. I got very ill doing a liver flush. I may have had parasite materials in my liver & I think it was moving around & blocked a bile duct. It was very painful.
One concept is that you can just go ahead & do the anti-parasite herbs. If your daughter feels ill - she probably has parasites. The tests are notoriously inaccurate...
I think Parastroy is stronger than Humaworm. The Humaworm folks are very nice in any case. I just don't think it's necessary to wait 3 months inbetween the 30 day treatment. With Parastroy, you can take it for 6 months - which may be necessary for some.
Also, there are going to be some parasites that are not visible to the naked eye. Some live in the lungs, blood, etc. so you may not see them in the bowel movements.
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Boxer Mom; Thankyou for your wonderful posts ! You have a way of getting right to the point of the discussion. I have found every experience you have shared to be truth. You have been a huge help in my recovery from this disease.
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quote:Originally posted by BoxerMom: I really hate responding to "what is in my toilet?" threads!
But you're sooooo gooooood at it!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by dyna3495: Boxer Mom; Thankyou for your wonderful posts ! You have a way of getting right to the point of the discussion. I have found every experience you have shared to be truth. You have been a huge help in my recovery from this disease.
I totally agree - I feel the exact same way about Boxer Mom!! Thank you for your consistantly excellent input!!
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I've always wondered if the flukes, worms, etc., are actually just something that forms between the olive oil and the other ingredients of the flush, RATHER than actual flukes, worms, stones.
I think one way to know this would be to do a flush multiple times. If the flukes, worms, stones start to DECREASE, it would imply they were "real" and you are getting most of them out. If you get gobs of flukes, worms, stones every time you do a flush for 100 times, it seems unlikely that they are actually what you think they are, and that they are probably more likely just food constituents of the flush ingredients.
However, to get these items coming out when doing Humaworm AND a hulda clark flush is pretty convincing since these two treatments have entirely different ingredients.
Just some food for thought....
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One thing I didn't mention was that the purpose of DD doing these bile duct flushes has nothing to do with parasites.
After 7 years of illness (started w/ lyme that improved w/ short abx treatment but most symptoms over the years have been from bart) and 9 months of LLMD abx treatment, we knew something was going wrong.
Instead of getting any improvement, things were getting considerably worse. Brain fog became significant, general fatigue became an issue, and then constipation set in (5 days w/ no bm).
Diagnosis was that liver and kidneys were blocked with bile and toxins and ducts were closed, not working to flush poisons out so her body was overwhelmed by the poisons.
Our intent is to loosen the bile from her liver and kidneys and flush it out so that her liver and kidneys begin to work properly, to detox again.
These potty prizes are just an added bonus, reminding me of what we'll have to address in the near future.
And this is for my DD who won't look at, think about, or talk about anything "dirty" be it mud, germs, poop, and especially not parasites!! Who knows what the future holds!
Note to sparkle - thanks for sharing that link. I checked out the curezone photos. Still didn't see what I saw in the potty, but that's ok. Got an education! And I'll remember next time not to click on brain worms - i reached my limit on that one!
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Also- parasites sometimes have different appearances due to the various stages in their lifecycle. This is the case for flukes.
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