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So I am curious if people think these industrial environmental pollutants such as xylene, toulene, benzene, etc are not especially dangerous for most of us here, or whether they are are likely excreted during the other de-tox strategies. I do find the lack of a discussion about them a little surprising
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BRAVO MATT!!! I am wanting to bring this chemical exposure reduction discussion forward as part of a strategy to keep the immune system even only a little bit stronger.
It may not even require industrial pollutant exposure for us to be VERY toxic and immune-repressed, with resulting neuro symptoms. Yes, lyme and chemicals alike can and do cause neuro symptoms, and lyme is not the only cause (or the sole infection to cause neuro stuff either. Candida can mimic MS for example). And that is not to minimize the role of lyme either, mind you, not even one little bit. Not at all.
Here's a questionnaire to estimate your body's chemical burden, even if you don't work at an industrial manufacturing plant: extras.insidebayarea.com/bodyburden/bodyburden.html
The Environmental Working Group has a website where you can look up the health impacts of many common chemicals: www.ewg.org/
The immune suppressive effect of most environmental chemicals is well documented ,I am too tired/lazy to research for links now but stay tuned for later. I will post about this.
According to clinical nutritionist Elizabeth Lipski, CCN MS the American government allows 300 new *untested!* chemicals into the environment each year. How nice of them. COntrast this with Europe, which requires that any manufacturer of one ton or more per year, log onto a centralized database and do periodic health reports. Interesting how those governments which have to foot the bill for the peoples' medical care are actually on the lookout for human health. This is a sharp contrast to our own system based on profiteering, with lax controls leading to the end result of 40% of our nation acquiring cancer at some point in thier lifetime, with 21% of these dying of it every year (according to the National Institutes of Health).
THANK YOU MATT! This is important, more than most people may realize. Cancer may be caused by environmental and food chemicals, in large part.
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UP for Mattnapa's post this is important! Thank you all.
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I too am surprised that more on this is not discussed. It seems important to me but so little is said about it.
My first LLMD did the US BIOTEK panel, and I had significant findings. But, the odd thing was the LLMD did not know how to address any of it though knew it was important. I was told the LLMD would look into it with other docs and never heard another word on it.
The little that I know is that infrared sauna is suppose to help pull toxins out. Dr Rogers DETOX OR DIE book talks about these chemicals and infrared sauna, also a Detox Cocktail she recommends. She provides the ingredients where one can purchase supplements separately or purchase the formula through her (assuming she still has it). If I am recalling right it was mostly high Vit C and 3 or 4 other things.
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One of the things I remember I tested very high in was styrene which I learned is carcinogenic. Can't remember all details now as it was 2 yrs ago that I tested and tried to research, but found information stating that printers emit styrene and one site that even recommended you get the longest printer cord possible or wireless and have printer as far away from your body as possible, preferrable in another well ventilated room. That is scarey, and WHY aren't we hearing more about that risk.
I am bedridden with a small footprint printer right next to the bed but use it sparingly. Wireless isn't good for EMF's for us and yet having printer near us is bad too....thus the recommendation of longest cord possible, but geeeez how practical is all that.
I hope this thread stays active and others will research and contribute so we can learn more.
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One of the things I remember I tested very high in was styrene which I learned is carcinogenic. Can't remember all details now as it was 2 yrs ago that I tested and tried to research, but found information stating that printers emit styrene and one site that even recommended you get the longest printer cord possible or wireless and have printer as far away from your body as possible, preferrable in another well ventilated room. That is scarey, and WHY aren't we hearing more about that risk.
I am bedridden with a small footprint printer right next to the bed but use it sparingly. Wireless isn't good for EMF's for us and yet having printer near us is bad too....thus the recommendation of longest cord possible, but geeeez how practical is all that.
I hope this thread stays active and others will research and contribute so we can learn more.
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In the past, there has been talk of this here on Lymenet. I believe Metametrix also does testing for environmental pollutants. Dr. Hulda Clark is also someone interesting to read up on.
Like someone mentioned above, what can a person do about it? When I was a kid, there were trucks going around the neighborhoods spraying pesticides to get rid of mosquitoes.
I've worked in darkrooms, in printing facilities, around molten metals (I studied sculpture), inhaled stone dust, worked with clay. I can smell laundry detergent from the laundrormat down the street all of the time.
Not to mention the water we drink & what may be in the air. How do we stop it? How do we really detox if every day we get another dose?
Some people do energetic testing around this issue. They take "energy medicine" to detox - but I don't know if this can really work. There are 1000s of chemicals.
There are people who have multiple chemical sensitivities who post here. It's a tough issue.
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I really think milk thistle is so helpful and important.
When they inject its constituent silymarin into laboratory rats, and thereafter feed them the poison aminita mushroom, the rats show 100% protection from the fatal toxin (which normally causes liver hemorrhage and death) writes Elizabeth Williamson, herbal pharmacist, in her book POtters Herbal Cyclopedia. It is believed that the constituents bind to receptor sites and thus block toxin entry. When people exposed to the death cap mushroom are treated within 72 hours of accidental exposure, their lives are saved. On Pubmed, the government medical database,I have only read about one suicide case who had a particularly high dosage, who did not survive. In all other cases, all (that I have read about) survived. (Keep in mind that the extracted constituents are like an isolated chemical, much stronger than the herb alone. The herb will be slower-acting but still is known to be a liver protector).
The book Herb, Nutrient and Drug Interactions authors write that the herb protects nerve, kidney, pancreas and liver tissue. So it helps to reduce (no cure is claimed, but improvement yes) blood sugar in Type 1 diabetes, according to the ND, MD and medical herbalist who co-authored the book. They also write of its benefits to detoxify mercury, the poison aminita mushroom, environmental toxins, and more.
One Pubmed study mentions the herb's use in aiding the growth of new liver tissue.
Go to the government medical database www.pubmed.gov and put into the search box: Milk thistle + radiation. 20 studies come up. It is used to protect cancer patients from side effects of chemo and radiation, and may be helpful to us right now to protect us from the radiation from Japan and the nuclear leak.
On Pubmed again, numerous (not only a few) studies testify to the herb's anti-cancer and anti-tumor benefits.
This herb may be very helpful to us at this time and in our lyme journey.
Additional herbs are necessary alongside to detoxify the liver, but the herb does need to be known to us.
I recommend the Paradise Herbs milk thistle, this is highly concentrated, has no alchohol or glycerin, or other binders, fillers or chemicals. Available at discount at www.iherb.com or www.vitacost.com
I also really like the alchohol tincture by GAIA Herbs called Milk Thistle Yellow Dock, this is excellent for detoxifying and "Cooling" the over-worked liver, try the websites above for availability.
I am not a doctor.
The above information has not been evaluated by the FDA and does not diagnose, cure or prevent any disease. DRugs and herbs may interact, talk with your doctor. This is not medical advice and your doctor's approval is necessary. No guarantees are made that every person will respond, body types differ and so do individual responses.
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Milk thistle sounds great but for some reason, when I dowse it, it comes up "no" for me right now.
I have taken it in the past. I'm not sure if it helped or not. I was taking a product called Liver Life by BioRay. It had other herbal ingredients, too.
I like to take a product called Detox Tea by Dr. Schulze on occasion.
The herbs were very fresh & it has an interesting taste. (I don't sell his products.)
Dr. Schulze also has a liver gall bladder product that has milk thistle as the 1st ingredient. I was taking that for a while, too. I like Dr. Schulze's products. Some of them are quite good.
Yes, we do have some herbal options. I just wish they would find a way to cut back on all these environmental toxins.
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Excellent products, Sparkle!
I really also like the GAIA Herbs product Milk Thistle Yellow Dock, the ingredients are very liver "cooling" to an over-stressed liver. Studies have shown that herbs work best in clusters rather than solo. So that could account for why you found better results with the formula.
Licorice caution: Can raise blood pressure and stimulate adrenals. This can affect heartbeat, nerves, reproductive hormones and immunity. In Lyme disease if there are electrical nerve sensations I suggest to avoid it. The bulk herb may not be as stimulating as the tincture, so it may be okay in moderate amounts. Some people are more sensitive than others. Licorice can greatly benefit and soothe the digestive tract.
The above information has not been evaluated by the FDA and does not diagnose, cure or prevent any disease. Drugs and herbs may interact, talk with your doctor.
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