Topic: Ivermectin - what is the proper dosage and treatment duration?
tick battler
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My 4 and 6 year old are starting Ivermectin and I would like confirmation that the dose is consistent with what others are taking.
My daughter is on 4 capsules/day of 3 mg (12 mg/day) and my son is on 4 capsules/day of 4 mg (16 mg day). They were told to take this daily for 2 weeks.
It was compounded but the label says these are the dosages. I am a little nervous because I have read that some pulse it and the dose seems high for children. I think this is a high dose for a long period of time compared to other accounts I have read.
Thanks for any info you have on this.
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I have no experience with humans taking ivermectin although I took my horses' wormer "just to make sure". I worm the horses one day only - twice a year. It is very powerful I don't know why you would take it everyday for two weeks.
Did you have your children's stools analyzed to find out what kind of worms they are infected with?
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I took 3mg daily of Ivermectin, and after reading the dosages, even that seemed higher than recommended. I had complications with other medications, and I blamed the Ivermectin for making me feel ill, so I quit after 4 days.
I have heard of others taking 3mg daily for a couple months, but I can't quote the sources.
If you do find more information about the recommended dose for this type of problem, I'd be interested in hearing the answer to this thread.
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MichaelTampa
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Standard is just one day only, then repeat in a couple weeks if necessary. Some who treat for lyme go two weeks, some in a chain/combination with other "wormers".
I used energy testing to determine dose. I took 12mg twice a day away from food for about 10 days (had supply for 2 weeks, but tested to stop after 10 days). So that's a total of 24mg a day for me. I weigh 135 pounds.
I think standard dose you'll read about in books (for people that don't have lyme) would be a good bit lower than this.
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Anyone doing this - did you have any testing other than enegretic? Before &/or after? 3 months later, 6 months later, etc.?
�While the post-treatment fecal egg counts for the ivermectin-treated heifers were not extremely high, egg counts as low as nine eggs per 3-gram sample have been shown to significantly reduce performance in yearling cattle,� says Reinhardt. �A small number of eggs do not necessarily translate to a small number of adult parasites.�
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tickbattler - my daughter will be taking Ivermectin and she will be doing 48 mg daily for 2 weeks. She is an older teen and is the size of an adult.
When do your kids start...
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Lauralyme
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If it's helpful.....my adult dosage was 12mg four times a day for 14 days
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tick battler
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Thank you all so much for your replies. I feel a bit better about the dosages but I still may reduce the dosage a bit.
After 2 days of it, my 4 year old said her legs were wobbly and she had chills. She was also itching all over her body. I have read this can be die off. I did skip a day yesterday and the itching and bad reactions are gone today. I was a bit nervous about these reactions...will be talking to the doctor.
Did anyone have any die off or side effects from this medication?
We never did a stool sample because they are notoriously unreliable, but she was muscle tested and showed ascaris, strongyloides, and two others that I don't know the spelling of: enerobias(?) and nicator(?). This seems like a lot of parasites for a 4 year old! Anyone else have these?
Thanks,
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seekhelp
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I don't know if I could give my child a harsh anti-parasitic like that w/o a positive lab test. I hope the muscle testing is accurate and she feels better soon. That does seem like a LOT for a 4 yr old.
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sparkle7
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Metametrix has a PCR test. Maybe that would be more accurate? I haven't done it.
Seems there's more info about ivermectin for animals than for humans...
Activated charcoal is the antidote.
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sparkle7
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Another thought...
The die-off can cause severe symptoms. It may be hard to tell die-off symptoms from toxic drug reaction.
I'm not sure with ivermectin, though. If the drugs seem too harsh - you may want to consider an herbal anti-parasite remedy instead.
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Lauralyme
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I was warned by my LLMD that people have a hard time with Ivermectin....lots of eye issues, etc
But it seemed to be a non event for me. But Albenza and Alinia preceding that was a different story. Maybe the load was significantly down.
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tick battler
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seek - how do you know it's harsh? Please provide information about how you came to this conclusion.
What about with lyme? Do you feel you need a positive lab test to treat that too?
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The main effects noted in field and community-based trials with ivermectin in humans infected with Onchocerca spp. have been those arising from the death of the parasites, the so-called Mazzotti reaction, which is characterized by arthralgia, pruritus, fever, hypertension, tachycardia, headache, and ocular changes. Neither in these studies nor during ivermectic treatment of other parasitic diseases in humans in Africa, South America, the Caribbean, and certain other areas has a subset of atypically sensitive individuals been detected. Furthermore, the adverse effects experienced by the small number of persons accidentally exposed to doses (often of veterinary preparations) higher than customary human doses are in keeping with those noted in several test animal species.
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thanks for the info Sparkle..interesting...
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sparkle7
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From what I have been studying - the ill effects are mostly from the parasite die-off - not so much the drugs.
So, if someone gets ill - it probably means they have parasites & they should continue.
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tick battler
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sparkle - thanks for the info. I have been studying it as well and came to the same conclusion most likely die off. That's what our doctor thinks but he agreed to try half the dose for a couple of days to see if there is less of a reaction.
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There is usually toxic metal mobilization during the parasite die-off. There may also be bacterial remnants released as well as viral. And fungi.
That is why it is important to stand guard and test every day and then also tackle the metal die-off, so that it cannot redistribute. This is when it pays off big time to know a bit of energetic testing (tensor or pendulum or muscle testing) and then to use the respective anti-agents, i.e. antibacterial, antifungal (which is also being released) and anti-viral. Usually these releases just last a couple of days, but it helps to capture whatever it is right away. One that tests often is Quintessence and/or fd garlic. And binders, binders to avoid redistribution of any of the above. What goes around comes around (again).
All this will avoid some of the discomfort.
It also helps to use any of the good enzymes to thin the blood (dark blood does not feel good!) like Rechtsregulat, Plasmanex1, etc.
Take care.
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tick battler
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Gigi, Thank you for the info. I will ask our LLND to test for the quintessance and garlic and Rechtsregulat. He does have them on a couple of antivirals and antifungals, as well as many other things, which I hope will help. We go back this week for ART testing.
For a binder he is using pectasol, which I think is citrus pectin. I wonder about adding microsilica and will ask about that too.
Thanks for your help!
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I hope the muscle testing is accurate and she feels better soon. That does seem like a LOT for a 4 yr old.
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