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laurie sm
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I have been on the Lyme and co-infection journey for almost 4 years and feel sicker than I have ever felt. I think I am going to finally treat for Bartonella and Babesia and hoping I can start feeling somewhat better again.
It seems that all the abx lately have been making me super queasy-Biaxin and now Bactrim.
Any suggestions to combat that awful nauseous feeling? I am afraid that if I cant tolerate them I will never feel better. It has been horrendous for me the last three months with no end in sight. Thanks for any input
Laurie

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Have you tried Alka Seltzer Gold? We find it at CVS and I add it to water with some lemon and it helps me a ton.
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Tracy9
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I am dealing with this now. I have been collecting ideas, too and here are some suggestions I have gotten:

Prescriptions:

Zofram
Reglan
Phenargan
Tigan
Miclizine (could be off on the spelling)
Compazine
Marinol

Over the Counter:

Benadryl
Ginger Root Capsules

Ginger Tea
Peppermint Candies
Peppermint Oil
Seabands (go on your wrists)
Saltines
Ginger Ale
Ginger chews
Marijuana
Smelling alcohol pads
Acupuncture

Please, others add anything you can think of. I'm interested in any suggestions as well.

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nefferdun
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Eat a lot of food, take the abx, then eat more. This will sandwich the abx in your stomach.

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Tracy, FYI it is Meclizine aka Dramamine. You have a good list of options!
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I needed to start abx on very low dose, like 5 mg of doxy and also compounded. Took me months to be on full dose but this was ok.

If your die-off is so high you have no other possibility.
I also take all meds with food like white bread and drink at least one big glass of water.
Many people have this problem, do a search here
for low dose abx.

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I can't diagnose and this is only information that I am passing on based on reading I did somewhere else (no longer have the link, sorry). I read that abx can sometimes cause inflammatory bowel symptoms.

I don't know if that is the case here, but if yes (and your doctor has diagnosed it) then I would suggest to build up the stomach lining is key. Plus lots of probiotics.

Good books:

Leaky Gut Syndrome by Elizabeth Lipski, CCN MS

Digestive Wellness by Elizabeth Lipski, CCN MS

Have you tried marshmallow root? Deglycerinated licorice (DGL)? Digestive enzymes?

There is a tea I like which has marshmallow root and other stomach-soothing herbs. It's called Cleansing Polari-Tea, google it and the recipe is fairly tasty. Tastes like a cross between mint and licorice. NOt at all bad, even nice taste.

Ginger, yes, that can help nausea.
So can lavender oil, just one or two drops of the essential oil in a cup of hot water as tea. Add a bit of honey or sweetener, sometimes the sweet flavor can help nausea too. Lavender is very soothing and contains linalool, an anti-inflammatory constituent.

I just *wonder* though (again no diagnosis) if your gut could possibly be irritated by the abx and to build it up and do natural anti-inflammatories are key. Chamomile is a good digestive anti-inflammatory too fyi.

CAUTION: www.healthy.net marshmallow root can possibly interfere with mainstream meds, take them about 3 hours apart.

Studies have shown that herbs work best in clusters rather than solo.

You could also try sucking on some crystalized ginger and see how you do with that, or drink ginger-mint tea.

If it turns out to be inflammatory bowel (usually I think this causes more stomach pains than nausea, and you should ask your doctor to diagnose you regardless) then the herb meadowsweet might be marvellous.

They used to make aspirin from this herb, so it's anti-inflammatory. HOwever it contains mucillage which shields the gut lining and is very soothing to digestive linings. So it used t be used for stomach ulcers, and will not hurt hte stomach like aspirin will.

You could call Star West Botanicals in CA and ask if they carry the herb. You might have to buy it in bulk, if so. And I would suggest mixing it with marshmallow root (also has tons of mucillage), mint and licorice and see how you do with that.

Best wishes, CI


The above information has not been evaluated by the FDA and does not diagnose, cure or prevent any disease. THis is for adjunct support, individual responses will vary.

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Hi, Just to add to chiquita's great sharings, one can get certified organic marshmallow root powder or tea via Mountain Rose Herbs. I respect the quality of their herbs (no commercial interest.)

If one does not have high blood pressure, licorice root is fine whole (rather than deglycerized). Mountain rose herbs has it ground/organic, and one can make capsules of it to help heal the gut and liver.

Sometimes their "search" function doesn't work so well, but if you click on "bulk herbs" then the letter of the herb, you'll find what you are looking for.

www.mountainroseherbs.com

I'm not a doctor. Just sharing what helps me sometimes.

Also, slippery elm powder.

Ease and peace ~

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